Shows / NFL/ Monday, November 9, 2026
Tyler Tamboline and Matthew Belman review Week 9's winning DraftKings lineups, with Jordan Love ($6,300) stacks driving both Milly wins. Expensive receivers could smash without becoming mandatory because Green Bay delivered comparable ceilings at lower salaries. Matthew Golden ($7,000) offered a direct late swap with Love from Drew Lock and Jaxon Smith-Njigba at the same combined salary. Correlated stacks also survived a weak tight end score while avoiding popular receivers who failed.
The Shedeur Sanders double stack illustrated how a cheap quarterback could fit premium skill players while preserving correlation. An unstacked quarterback won the single entry contest, but the preferred long-term approach remained stacking rather than independently hitting every roster spot. Bring-backs were useful without being mandatory, particularly when they redirected builds away from chalk. Late receiver scratches required more caution than running back replacements because targets were less predictable than guaranteed touches.
| Play | Call | The Take | At |
|---|---|---|---|
| His three touchdowns did not immediately make him mandatory because the $9,000 salary and the rest of each lineup still determined whether opponents were threatening. | 2:01 | ||
| C.J. Stroud + Tank Dell + Kayshon Boutte | The perfect lineup used this extremely low-owned combination, while Stroud entries paired with Nico Collins would have missed the required construction. | 5:30 | |
| CHALK | He produced a huge early score at high ownership, yet the winning Milly lineup demonstrated that his salary still created opportunity costs. | 7:56 | |
| CHALK | His high ownership and strong early result made him feel necessary, but cheaper Packers receivers allowed winning lineups to succeed without him. | 7:56 | |
| Jordan Love + Christian Watson + Matthew Golden | IN PLAY | The winning Packers double stack illustrated the preferred approach of concentrating on correlated ceiling performances instead of independently selecting every roster spot. | 8:44 |
| CHALK | He was a popular cheap tight end used to make salaries fit, and winning stacks survived his 3.4 points. | 9:49 | |
| His 23-point result was the winning lineup's low-owned outlier, and his pairing with Jonah Coleman was subsequently identified as a secondary stack. | 11:18 | ||
| His day was acceptable for the salary on a weak running back slate, but limited second-half involvement left room for a much bigger result. | 13:06 | ||
| PAY UP | Paying $7,500 for a receiver in a condensed, low-owned stack was defended as paying for the probability of a correlated ceiling. | 13:39 | |
| PAY UP | The $7,000 salary discouraged the field, but paying for the condensed Packers passing game provided a sensible route to differentiation. | 13:39 |
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What's up everyone tyler tamboline here aka ToeTagginTambo back for another edition of the takedown breakdown here on the Ship It Nation YouTube station breaking down week nine Classic ContestsNFL Classic contests use players from multiple games. On DraftKings, you fill nine spots within $50,000: one quarterback, two running backs, three wide receivers, one tight end, one flex and one team defense/special teams.Check the included games before building. A Classic contest can cover a small afternoon slate rather than the full day, changing your available players and lineup options.Read the full definition of Classic Contests we had the mega milli yesterday the twenty dollar milli maker got my guy Belman back in the booth here with me we're going to be using dfsos.com you guys can use code ship it over there to save fifty percent off the all access we'll show off some of the features there as we're breaking it all down but Belman Week nine's not over yet, but I don't have any takedowns here for my own to talk about, but we had a lot within the community, so that's exciting.
What's going on with you, my friend? Great to have you back in here with me. Yeah, hyped to be back on here with you, my favorite show of the week. Had to miss the past couple weeks, unfortunately, but fun SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate yesterday to talk about. Some weird results. Man, after that first stretch of games, I... You know, I don't know how much I would have laid down that, you know, Puka and Lamb not being on the winning lineup was, you know, would have been a huge underdog.
But the Packers did crazy things in the afternoon slate. So I'm excited to break it down with you, man. Yeah, some crazy stuff about that I think is really good to talk about as well as like what we'll see. I mean, we'll go to Optimal LineupAn optimal lineup is a legal roster that maximizes fantasy points under the salary cap and roster rules. After games, it uses actual scores; before games, a projected optimal uses estimated scores and any lineup restrictions you set.When reviewing an optimal, replace its most surprising scorer with a realistic pregame alternative. Check whether the remaining construction still offered a credible path to winning your contest.Read the full definition of Optimal Lineup as well as what's needed and what ended up winning and all these different factors.
But one of the big things is like how freaked out people get when like Kenneth Walker out of the gate scores that touchdown and then the second touchdown. I know he ended up getting the third, but it's like also you just don't know.
Because he's $9,000 and what does the rest of the lineup look like and then he's not really played as much as you think as well so like is he actually going to affect you and so many people worry about that so quickly and it's like you just got to look at the whole slate first and wait and see what happens so um you know we'll look at two two we're gonna go to the perfect lineup we are gonna go through that I'm just trying to see here from yesterday too I want to see if I can Bring this up quickly.
I mean, the first one out of the gates, I want to talk about this one here. Our guy E-Forty, Respect My Ravens, founding family member over at Ship It Nation. This is awesome. Says, LFG, I've been rocking with Ship It Nation since day one. Tagged hoop, title, and myself. And then he got the hundred dollars into $40,000. There's some other good stuff going on with that lineup, but this is what it's all about. These are not typical results. Obviously, this is part of being involved.
He's been here since day one. So, you know, three and a half years in the making. If you will, obviously had some other wins along the way. It's not his only win, just noting it of, you know, a huge cash, a hundred bucks into $40,000, something you absolutely love to see. We had a few others. I'm just trying to see if I can find them. Here now. Let's see this. This was from college on the weekend, CFB Streets.
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We're going to look at Optimal LineupAn optimal lineup is a legal roster that maximizes fantasy points under the salary cap and roster rules. After games, it uses actual scores; before games, a projected optimal uses estimated scores and any lineup restrictions you set.When reviewing an optimal, replace its most surprising scorer with a realistic pregame alternative. Check whether the remaining construction still offered a credible path to winning your contest.Read the full definition of Optimal Lineup here first, and it should pull up. Yesterday was the eighth. We will go to the main SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate. And so Ken Walker did show up on the optimal, the optimal quite different, by the way, from the winning lineups yesterday. We don't always see that, but when you have like CJ Stroud going off at low OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership with booty and, you know, Kenneth Walker at, you know, eight percent sub ten.
Some of these other guys very popular, but you look at the stack in this lineup. It's Stroud, booty, Tank Dell. Then you've got, you know, Casey, San Francisco. You got some other stuff going on here, but here's the perfect lineup. Anyway, Belman, I'll let you go through it here first.
Yeah so man cj Stroud in the game with one of the lowest totals on the slate and I talked to ham briefly in the ContrarianA contrarian play or lineup is one built around choices most of the field will not make, such as low-owned players, unpopular teams or an unusual salary structure.Pick one or two contrarian spots per lineup and ground each in a real reason. The rest of the roster can look like the field.Read the full definition of Contrarian construction show you know Lineup LockLineup lock is the deadline after which you cannot change your selected players. Without late swap, your entire lineup locks together; with late swap, which allows edits after the contest begins, players lock at their games' listed deadlines.After saving an edit, reopen your entered lineups and confirm the change reached every intended entry. Check the site's displayed lock times and time zone instead of relying on the television schedule.Read the full definition of Lineup Lock about I thought that game could have more points than expected Houston off a buy you know the Chargers are dead man walking team so Stroud in there you know obviously no one played Stroud And what's even more interesting about that, I would venture to say that of the lineups that played Stroud, how many played Nico Collins with him?
You know what I mean? Like, I don't know the number, but so many. And then you don't have Collins in there, but you have Tank Dell and Boutte. So yeah, I'm not surprised that the perfect lineup this week is far different from the lineups that actually won just because of the Houston stack itself being so LeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Read the full definition of Leverage. That's why we always look at it. I think from like a, you know, overall slate. And that's why I talk about slate dynamics. It matters way more.
Like you look at Kenneth Walker here, we're going to get to it in a second. I won't spend too much time on this. Like at the end of the day, we look at it just to see reverse backwards and also know what we're up against, but just wanted to show. So it was almost two hundred and sixty seven points for the perfect lineup when you're on DFSOS.com and you go to slate review. It'll bring up the latest and greatest. So we're going to the November eighth.
Let's start with the. Twenty dollar Milly Maker. The one there. I showed it again to our guy, Rio. He would cheat it, by the way, man. Yes, it was awesome to Rio. Got a FFWC seat right off what he said in his post. When you're hot, you're hot. So on top of the other members and all those that are coming through, Rio did get an FFWC seat there as well. He said it was quite the sweat down the stretch. But Merlin H.
Won the twenty dollar and this was what we said two sixty six two sixty six point eight six how about two twenty one point three eight talk about a delta on the perfect versus the winning lineup and we could look at the lineup here so it'll load up here in just a second guys. Once we get that up and ready.
So Merlin had fifty one lineups cash twenty three out of fifty one roughly used all the salary in the majority played ninety one players in their Player PoolA player pool is the set of players you consider using in your DFS lineups for a slate, the games or events included in a contest. The term can also mean everyone available to select in that contest.Keep a replacement beside each uncertain player, noting the salary and position you need. Recheck those alternatives when news changes so your shortlist still produces usable lineups.Read the full definition of Player Pool. You're able to see who their exposures were highest on what the deltas were. You can see how they played against the highest own. So with Jonah Coleman, big stand around the field on McCaffrey, et cetera, et cetera. You guys can go through all this. You could also see their flex usage.
So they used forty nine percent running back Flex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL, almost thirty percent wide receiver and just over twenty in tight end. So you can see that. But this was the lineup. It only takes one. We talk about this all the time. Second best lineup, one hundred and seventy four points doesn't matter when you've got the one with two twenty one point three eight that gets the job done for the full shipper, the ultimate shipper, that is the Milly Maker.
So Talk to me about this lineup. This is a little bit more common to what you'll see, right? Darren Waller is the One-OffIn NFL DFS, a one-off is a player you select outside your stacks, commonly a running back or a receiver without his quarterback. An opposing receiver intentionally paired with your stack instead serves as a bring-back.Before adding a one-off, compare him with an affordable teammate of your existing stack. Decide whether his individual upside is worth passing up that extra scoring connection.Read the full definition of One-Off here at the lowest OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership. But, you know, Chiefs were a payout. Not many were on a payout with Kenneth Walker. Kind of makes sense to go there. But give us your thoughts on this one, Belman.
Yeah, so I'm still just baffled is the best word I can think of for my thoughts on Lamb nor Puka being in the winning lineup after what they did at the beginning of the SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate at high ownership, nonetheless. That said, it goes to what you said about Kenneth Walker. They were expensive, and you got to let the slate play out. Golden and Watson matched them at much cheaper price tags, enabling you to fit a Kenneth Walker lineup.
Yeah, Waller the outlier, but other than that, I heard you talking on the Sunday morning show about wanting to just stack, stack, stack, stack, because you want the outlier performances, maybe quarterback with three or with two and then just one back and not necessarily the one that everyone else plays. So this lineup, I think, is a good enough example of it.
You've got the full Packers stack with Love, Watson, and Golden, and you Bring-BackIn the NFL, a bring-back is usually a wide receiver, tight end or running back from the team facing your quarterback stack.Pick the bring-back who gains the most when his team falls behind. In football that's usually the opponent's top pass catcher, not a running back who loses carries in a comeback.Read the full definition of Bring-Back Douglas, who's been really good – wasn't like super LeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Read the full definition of Leverage, but wasn't high owned either. It was kind of priced in that mid tier where a lot of people weren't getting to. So yeah, just a solid lineup here. And to your point, like it doesn't matter what your other lineups do, as long as the one that, that gets up there, takes it down.
Yeah, and I mean, this is what I was talking about yesterday. It was like, this is a prime example. I liked it way more mentioning it on FanDuel, like the pricing over there. But obviously, if you Late SwapIn NFL contests with late swap, you can change unlocked afternoon or evening players after earlier games begin. Only games included in that contest's player pool are available.Before the first games lock, identify affordable backup combinations for your later players. Check that each combination fits the open positions, then confirm your saved changes in every affected entry.Read the full definition of Late Swap to it or you just had this in the mix, it was a way to get different with Ramondre Stevenson. So Ramondre was getting a little bit of love. And I know he's not in this lineup.
Just to note it, if you were playing Ramondre and wrapping these guys around it, I said how I like these Game StackIn the NFL, a game stack usually combines a quarterback, one or two of his pass catchers and one or more players from the opposing offense.Target games where the spread is close as well as the total high. A high total with a lopsided spread can turn into a blowout where only one side keeps scoring.Read the full definition of Game Stack, like three twos or four ones. And Douglas would have fit into it. Douglas was also right in that range where everyone was on This is a prime example. Whether they meant to do it or not, I doubt it. But just to note it, when you're on Walker, most would have Adonai Mitchell as a Mini-StackIn NFL DFS, a mini-stack usually pairs two players from the same game without either team's quarterback. Often a secondary group beside your main quarterback stack, it can pair a running back with an opposing receiver.Before locking a pair, describe how both players reach big scores together. Then ask whether that outcome would make an omitted quarterback or teammate difficult to beat.Read the full definition of Mini-Stack.
But instead of that, they went with the player that's right there with Adonai Mitchell.
DeMario Douglas that also fits in with the game stack and then instead put the defense against the Jets with the running back that they're playing it with and then it's just a secondary stack I know that Dolchish was a popular one-off that people just said look give me cheap tight end to make it all work double cheap tight end got up to the top again by the way for the season I know it's hard to get there but you know that's the other thing you know when people oh, this, that, and the other, but you always got to be perfect.
We talk about it all the time. It feels like you do got to be perfect, but what I was talking about with those game stacks, and funny enough, this is outside of the game stack, but it's really... I don't know how to best put it here, but you could have had... Let's flip it around. You could have had Ramondre... Kraft could be the three or four points there because of the money savings.
And then your additional spot here, I don't know, maybe you can get to something else like Puka and the Giants or something. And you still would have had a really good score this week. And maybe I didn't do the exact math on it to show it off, But the point being of like, you could have still had the full game stack, got the lower score there with the four man of craft people.
Well, people don't realize when you're doing these full game stacks like that or the triple stacks with a run back. So meaning love Watson, Golden craft with say Douglas or Douglas and or Stevenson. When you get the thirty nines and the thirty threes and the thirty fives, If this was Kraft, and we're just using this as an example for those that are paying attention. We're not saying anything against this line. I'm just noting it.
If you did go that route, you can sometimes get away with those low scores. They got away with a three point four here with Greg Dulcich because of everything else. And obviously this helps when you get a twenty three pointer from Waller. Waller was obviously a secondary stack. With Coleman. So if going for two tight end and adding a second, they did play almost thirty percent, I think, or twenty five percent or whatever it was. What was it here? Twenty two percent double tight end.
So it's like this at least makes some sense there. I think it's all really solid overall, but not many people were getting to love stacks. Two point eight four point two Golden, a little bit nine point seven Douglas sub ten like this. This was nice for having a twenty three percent and a thirty eight percent Coleman outside of that. No real crazy ownership, but still made a lot of sense on paper. Yeah.
And to your point about Dulcich and like insert whoever craft Dulcich, whoever wasn't good in that spot, when you put yourself on a little bit of an island or reservation where you're stacking up a team or a game that the field isn't necessarily getting to. But within that lineup, you're also not playing other high on guys like the expensive receivers we talked about.
You can afford, you know, a spot or two to not perform that well because you're so different everywhere else, quite frankly, and the everywhere else made up for it here. And I'm just thinking about the slate too at all. Like you mentioned, like, so no Puka got away with it. No lamb and not in on that Dallas indie game.
We talked about this the week before with like the Buffalo and Ravens game, even outside, obviously there was a Lamar injury in that game. But the idea of like, if you didn't have Zay, like, look, this is a prime week for those that always worry about that kind of stuff or have that FOMO or feel like they almost need to have those guys. No matter what, there's no CMC.
Had a decent, when running back sucked yesterday, CMC actually had an all right day for his price point and he barely played the second half. It was almost all Kalen Black, et cetera, et cetera. Always possible, I get it. I'm just saying, felt like he could have done a lot more. The game was closer than you'd think for a while there until really late. But anyway, there's that. Puka with a massive score, not found.
Lamb with a huge score as well, not found. Like that's the kind of the most interesting thing and you brought it up already, but just the point of when people think like, I got to figure out how I'm getting them all in. Like we always say, you can't cover everywhere and you still have to build accordingly.
And the way to do it differently would be with something like this, a very condensed low owned stack that, you know, we talk about this all the time to Spending UpSpending up means choosing a higher-priced player over a cheaper alternative, using more of your lineup's salary budget at that spot. You may also hear it called paying up.Build a version with your preferred expensive player and another without. Before choosing, check whether either version relies on a cheap player whose expected role still depends on unresolved injury news.Read the full definition of Spending Up for probability. Nobody wanted to pay. I mean, $7,500 for Watson, $7,000 for Golden. Why pay $6,300? I'll give you another one. Exact to be to Drew Locke, $4,000, $2,300 less than Jordan Love.
Jsn $9,300 $2,300 more than Golden so if you were Late SwapIn NFL contests with late swap, you can change unlocked afternoon or evening players after earlier games begin. Only games included in that contest's player pool are available.Before the first games lock, identify affordable backup combinations for your later players. Check that each combination fits the open positions, then confirm your saved changes in every affected entry.Read the full definition of Late Swap yesterday from Drew Lock and jsn you could have just simply went to love and Golden at much lower OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership and obviously the ability to hit for a score like this I mean you're getting seventy seventy five points I mean some of these tournaments in the higher stakes smaller field stuff had like really low scores up there for the most part, if you will.
So like when you're getting just seventy five from two guys, that's a game changer, especially when you look at what results oriented. I get it. But the process of that flip is not results oriented. If you were dead in the morning and sitting on Drew Locke and JSN like a lot of people were, you could obviously think about that swap. So using those thoughts to your advantage moving forward could be a thing as well. Let's go back here. Let's go back to the SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate review.
I'm kind of surprised that no one had Houston at all in this big of a tournament. That Houston stack. No one had Stroud, Dell, and Boutte. You brought up a good point, though, because it's definitely the first part you brought up, in my opinion. It's like even if you were on...
A one or two percent owned cj Stroud how many people are rolling it out there naked or without Collins and just that simple move is already going to be um a bit of a problem for your lineup why we always talk about it when someone's like oh I I always use this week but the week we all played Bucky Irving a couple years ago and then Sean Tucker had Not even in the top ten that week when we did takedown breakdown.
Nowhere to be found because he's one percent. And then also, are people going to get the rest of it right? And he wasn't even one percent. He was like point seven. It's the same type of idea. When you've got a one point seven or a point seven percent C.J. Stroud, they're almost all dead on arrival with Collins. You also have to remember, though, too, it works both ways because you didn't have to worry about it.
Like I say, it didn't even show up because no one's on him enough. And if they were, they were on him wrong. But also the idea behind the whole point of why that exists sometimes is the slate dynamics of why would people like Collins yesterday when you had – Puka, Lamb, JSN. There's a bunch of other guys there. The Watson, the Golden. There's just so many other guys that you could go to and stack that it just works in reverse.
And we know the ownership coming in as well. So Celeste, twelve was the winner of the $4,400 Mega Milly had the 150-MaxA 150-max DFS contest allows you to submit up to 150 entries into that contest, paying the entry fee for each. Max entering means using every allowed entry, whether the contest limit is 150 or a smaller number.Multiply the entry fee by your planned entry count before building. If you cannot justify additional lineups on their own merits, leave the remaining entries unused.Read the full definition of 150-Max. Nineteen. Another thing when people like, oh, nothing's cashing, nothing's doing well. Three of nineteen lineups cashed. Still got the million dollars in one of those. It only matters what happens in that one. But they played fifty seven players across nineteen lineups.
So this is one interesting thing, too, when people again, I know it's for a smaller field, but if you are playing a Twenty-MaxA twenty-max contest lets each user enter up to 20 lineups. It sits between small-field formats like three-max and the largest 150-entry tournaments.Plan all 20 lineups before building any of them. Decide your stacks and exposure limits first, so the set works as a portfolio rather than 20 separate guesses.Read the full definition of Twenty-Max pool, It's interesting just to see how some of these players in the winning lineups and those that can afford to play this doesn't always mean they're the best players. But just to note it, you can find out more about how they treat it. Find anybody you like in this tournament with your DFSOS membership and go and SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate review or the contest vault.
You can go back now. I think there's over $32,000 contests in that. I'll show that off after as well. But just noting it here, Belman, this was the lineup. One ninety four point nine eight. That's what I said. The power of look, they had it all. But just to note it, the power of getting seventy five points just from Golden and Love.
And the reason I use that example is because it's the you know, in my review this morning, I wish I had had this review before my Late SwapIn NFL contests with late swap, you can change unlocked afternoon or evening players after earlier games begin. Only games included in that contest's player pool are available.Before the first games lock, identify affordable backup combinations for your later players. Check that each combination fits the open positions, then confirm your saved changes in every affected entry.Read the full definition of Late Swap yesterday afternoon. I would have probably landed on these guys, but it was Locke and JSN to Love and Golden. Is it results oriented now? Yes. But is it also something you could have got to in advance? Yes.
And if you're thinking about sort of how you would level up against The FieldThe field is everyone else entered in a contest, the group of lineups you are competing against.Before you build, picture the typical lineup in your contest. Then decide on purpose where you'll match it and where you'll step away from it.Read the full definition of The Field and hurt it in a way that you could get different with, this would be a way because you got to think as well, what was popular in the afternoon? You'll say lock and JSN. If you can't be using that because everyone's on it, you're already thinking differently, but then you also got to think, okay, what else was popular?
Well, um, remandre was popular what would be the type of Game ScriptGame script is how a game's score and time remaining influence its pace, play choices and player opportunities. In football, teams protecting a lead often run more, while teams chasing a deficit often pass more.Before locking a lineup, ask who keeps playing if your expected script reverses. Check passing-down roles and backup rotations instead of assuming a team's leading rusher handles every situation.Read the full definition of Game Script that might take remandre out of it or might make it so that when remandre goes off this gets very busy well that would be another example how you could do that if you don't have remandre and you're not in on him uh, them going ahead via the passing game would hurt Ramondre. So that would be helpful to you.
And also if Ramondre was doing well on the ground or getting touchdowns or whatever it might be, well, wouldn't that make it so that love and Golden probably have to pass and catch and that sort of setup. So I think that's how I would look at it in, you know, process piece wise, you know, for going into it the next day, but this lineup, very similar. Um, I think safer or felt better probably on paper than the other one.
When you look at it, because it's just, it's love Watson, Golden Douglas, the same Jonah Coleman, Dulcich, the same where they got different was instead of Walker, the Chiefs D and the Darden Waller play as a Mini-StackIn NFL DFS, a mini-stack usually pairs two players from the same game without either team's quarterback. Often a secondary group beside your main quarterback stack, it can pair a running back with an opposing receiver.Before locking a pair, describe how both players reach big scores together. Then ask whether that outcome would make an omitted quarterback or teammate difficult to beat.Read the full definition of Mini-Stack. They just plugged in McCaffrey, Fannin and Rams D here going up against. They got so lucky with Fannin too.
I mean, he had zero catches going into overtime and then broke that like monstrous forty yarder for his score like I mean that them's the break sometimes as you said no matter when they get it right that's that's right they did end up winning by two this is another prime example to where it's like when that touchdown happens just using the fan an example I don't even know if they're that excited you know what I mean like obviously they're excited everyone like this is the point I'm trying to make I'll make it better I'll be more clear when the fan and touchdown happens they're sitting on Stoll needing Jordan Love, McCaffrey, Watson, Golden, Douglas.
You know, Rams D solid, you'd like the other Dulcich missed. Like they were probably in like six hundred plates. Yeah, they're not doing well at the six hundredth being like, sweet. My guy got a touchdown that barely makes up for Dulcich shitty score. I get it. I mean, they probably think they got no, by the way, don't forget their portfolio going back in. Now we're going to look at some of the other lineups here because I want to see this.
But by the way, they got nineteen lineups and none of them ended up doing very well, except the one that actually got to the top. But think about it at the time. Malik Willis. This is fun exercise. Malik Willis, these lineups, big, big trouble, right? Thirteen out of Gibbs. These are morning guys. McCarthy injured on the freaking sidelines. We're just talking about their mindset. I'm not going to go through all of them, but Goff getting crushed on the road. Willis crushed.
This one's more afternoon-based, but Flournoy, Chark... Mitchell chalk zero. I mean, not feeling great probably about this one either, to be honest. So that's an example. McCarthy done. Uh, what else? Judkins five point five. I mean, Puka, but Dulcich, Flournoy, they're feeling dead with this one. I don't want to do them all, but I kind of am just because most of these lineups are DOA dead on arrival. Will is dead. Should there one interesting, but what are they all got? Nabers with nothing.
Dulcich with nothing. Cowboys with nothing. Gibbs with a huge $10,000 fail. So like sweet. Thanks for showing up guys. Barely. Maybe this was no conception either. Yeah, you know, Mahomes lineup's dead. Drake May's an afternoon one, but would have had Judkins, Nabers, Warren, Jamo. Like, all this shit is dead. Milton lineup's dead. Dak dead. These are all dead. You know, Brock Purdy's, what were they sitting on them with? At least these ones had some late guys.
Like, honestly, it was zero, though, with Adonai Mitchell, Nabers. So let's use this one. This might be the only one. This might have been the one they were thinking, like, man, maybe I got a shot. Because Coleman good. Singletary, whatever. He was cheap. Big game at Apuca. They still had the zero. Not even. The five. I mean, they're not feeling good about anything. And then Fannin gets the touchdown. They probably didn't give a shit.
And then you get Love, McCaffrey, Watson, Golden. Douglas has a big day. All this stuff comes through. So it's like, yeah, that's pretty crazy. When you think about the timing of it, you mentioned, yes, this ended up mattering in the end. But at the timing... Probably didn't give a shit. And they're like, man, this day sucks. I really got to pray that this stuff goes my way in the afternoon. And then it went off. So just to think about it, when you start your day horribly.
Yeah. Someone said it here. A Bizzle knows guy probably stopped watching for it. They were probably minus like $70,000 for a lot of the slate. Remember that too. They're in for almost $5,000 a pop. I mean, we're almost a hundred knees in here with nineteen lineups at forty four, forty four. And then that's why I did that exercise.
I know it's painful to probably hear me go through every single one quickly, but just to note it, that's something you got to think about when you're looking. That's the game of DFS that we play, though. And, you know, it's it's really. It's got to go your way in the end. And in the end, this one did in the biggest way. Anything else you want to add? I mean, another just back to the two tight ends.
You know, these the defenses were all over the place this past week. You could have played the Giants or the Eagles down low and got away with it. You could have played the Chiefs and got up there as we saw in the Kenneth Walker. But the other interesting thing, this one for me was just only McCaffrey. No Lamb, no Puka, no Kenneth Walker like we talked about. Everyone just assumes you need all these guys because they ended up in the top.
You could have got away with a lot of things this week. Really what you needed was Love, Watson, Golden, and some Patriots in your lineup. You needed the stack, and it goes to the outlier performances. But also with that, scores were low all around this week, especially early. So even though Puka and Lamb were good, the guys you played them with were generally not that good.
So that's why the stack – you know was so much even more needed because it got you off of a lot of the plays that weren't good anyways so yeah just we talk about it all the time stacking isn't always going to work but it's a really good way to separate you and you know we're always looking for outlier performances so yeah Yeah. And this is just like, everyone's got their own Bankroll ManagementBankroll management is how you size your DFS spending relative to the money you have set aside to play, called your bankroll, so normal losing streaks do not wipe you out.Write down your per-slate limit before the season starts. Spending rules are much easier to keep when you set them before a losing streak, not during one.Read the full definition of Bankroll Management for sure. That's the thing.
$100,000 is crazy, but this is very false again. Like this just gets, this is so missed mistaken by when people say this. So it's not just you, Josh, I'm just noting it. I hear what you're saying. And you've been here supporting a long time.
I know you play heavily yourself, et cetera, but it's like when somebody plays the mini Macs, for seventy five dollars and first is a thousand right it's a hundred buck call it round it up it's a hundred bucks into a thousand you're like man seventy five bucks is crazy they basically gotta win the minimax at that point no they don't and also when you're compounding a hundred thousand dollars into a million think about one pile of $100,000 and then imagine you have ten of them in front of you it's much much different than that so you you definitely um you know, looking at just flipping the money around, it's like a Min-CashA min-cash is the smallest prize in a contest, earned by finishing just inside the paid places. In tournaments it is usually a small multiple of the entry fee.Do not judge a tournament slate by how many lineups min-cashed. Track your top finishes, since that is where tournament profit actually comes from.Read the full definition of Min-Cash is seven to $9,000.
You could have ten min cashes out of the lineup and still get $70,000 back. And you're not the end of the world and you needed a couple of them to break out. And it's very, very possible. So just noting that it is crazy. It's a big dollar amount. Someone's Bankroll ManagementBankroll management is how you size your DFS spending relative to the money you have set aside to play, called your bankroll, so normal losing streaks do not wipe you out.Write down your per-slate limit before the season starts. Spending rules are much easier to keep when you set them before a losing streak, not during one.Read the full definition of Bankroll Management is not our bankroll, but you need to like really pull it back all the way to the math and say that, you know, the ten exit is almost needed.
That's, you know, first of all, if you're ten xing $100,000, you're crushing it. Second of all, um, ten X thing is like, you know, pretty standard stuff. If you just look at that, go to whatever tournaments you're in and it's kind of the same idea, right? So Need lunch money. I wanted to see what he did in his portfolio. Obviously, Eric, one of the best players in the world, and he only cashed two out of his nineteen.
He had sixty two unique players across nineteen lineups. Didn't play any wide receiver Flex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL is interesting. So even with JSN, Lamb and Flournoy and Williams and Mitchell playing. So this is how I look at it and think about it.
But like, you know, this is kind of interesting when you think about all the wide receivers, the high end guys, but also all the cheap wide receivers and then use none and flex just, you know, something interesting to think about and converted here for, you know, two hundred and twelve K on the buy in like like new and said. Yeah, but you don't know this. Again, you're speaking for somebody else's bankroll. Not to come at you, just factually, right?
Seventy-nine on the minimax, you can withstand. You're saying seventy-five bucks is not a lot because it's not a lot to you or something like that. This guy could have a hundred million in his bank. Yeah, we have no idea who this is. And he's playing a hundred days with staying with everyone. Use the best examples. Uticao is active and on record multiple times. Basically without saying it, stating that he's playing through thirty to fifty million dollars playthrough in a season. I don't care about his bank.
It's none of my business or what's in his bank. I'm just saying it's probably a lot to be able to play through that stuff. But it's like saying, man, if he loses that, that's got to it's just it's all relative to each Person. That's why it's important to have that conversation so people can recognize that just to see it. Right. You want to look at it from that perspective. So, you know, it's interesting, though.
I'm pretty sure that only from what I'm seeing, there weren't that many people that played XIX in that contest. It just so happens the first two did. Yeah. I mean, when you have nineteen, it doesn't make it easier either. That's going to prove that we can always look that angle up. But I was like looking at not just the winner. I'm not saying anything against Celeste. Congrats. You'll really make a winner. The nice part about DFS OS also is if we just go back.
I mean, with need lunch money, we can go see this is he's won way more than this. This site is not put out there like some of the bad ones. Just like look at people's PNLs and try and do it like look. Eric is one of the best players in the world bar. That's it. Point blank period. So this is not all of it. It states right here. It's only $2,000 twenty to the current. It's not comprehensive. Not every contest is tracked.
This doesn't even go back before twenty twenty. It's just showcasing that clearly someone knows what they're doing. You don't need to look very far outside of your lobbies to know that need lunch money knows what he's doing. So just that is a side note. What I think is interesting, though, is if you go to like the player profiles here and I was already on it. Sorry, you can just go to here.
And I'm sure they, if they're playing that kind of money, they've won lots. I'm just saying it's, it's, I always look at a couple of different people, but no, that's crazy. So Celeste twelve comes out of the woodworks and it looks like, let's see this now. This is crazy. All right, let's go back by date. I did all months, twenty twenty six a month ago, came out with thirty $1,000 in the mega milli zero back.
Then decided to fire the luxury box the next week, 150-MaxA 150-max DFS contest allows you to submit up to 150 entries into that contest, paying the entry fee for each. Max entering means using every allowed entry, whether the contest limit is 150 or a smaller number.Multiply the entry fee by your planned entry count before building. If you cannot justify additional lineups on their own merits, leave the remaining entries unused.Read the full definition of 150-Max, half the money back. So when you wonder about is this money really affecting them, do we know? I don't know, but they came out of the gates firing. Not much success until a week ago. They played the mid-season main event and turned twenty $1,000 into forty two fifty. Fired it all back in and then some this past week and win the million dollars. So. That's crazy. Yeah.
Like I said, that's what I was talking about too. Just, you know, the other thing too, like Nguyen says, yeah, like Lynch Mooney, these guys, they're crushing the satellite streets as well. I still, to this day, I say it and I'm, you know, something I've put a lot of effort into. People that follow me or go to dfsmastermind.com and check that out for the secrets of satellites.
I've yet to meet a successful satellite player that is not great at these tournaments as well. Like it's just, if you can win at those satellites, I know they're way smaller fields and people oftentimes think, well, obviously it's easy to beat a hundred or less people. Like it's way it's yes. The odds are better than winning a six hundred plus Person mega Milly Maker. I'm just saying. The best players are usually good at satellites and at tournaments. It carries over is what I'm saying.
So yeah, people do have tickets for that. Jerry Matt says, you never know. Some of these guys could be sitting on these stocks, crypto, very Likely. And honestly, sometimes when something like this happens, like Celeste almost comes out of the woodworks, sometimes that is coming over from other industries. We saw one of the top poker player, like a highly ranked, sorry, I should say poker player win both Millies a couple of weeks ago. It happens for sure.
And I don't know if you can do the quick math on this. It's like two hundred fifty. So, you know, not quite not quite down, you know, up seven fifty ish, eight fifty ish. But anyway, all that to say and just show it off that you could see all the stuff on here and go look it up. But just going back into the Mega Milly, was there anything else you want to look at there?
I mean, you were saying what those like Zoken for sure. Lavertical. Awesome. One Drop King. One of the best. Uticao best. Uticao Fantasy Center. The two I always put up. At the top, uh, one, eight hundred degrees, Miami. Awesome. Jesse incredible player won the Mills earlier this season. Fantasy. My boy is right there. Like all these guys are so close, but, um, you know, they've already had Milly Miller Milly winners this season.
So I'm sure they're doing just fine, but some of these guys like school is also good player. What, how many did they play? I was trying to see one lineup. So, I mean, this got to feel pretty good, right? You go in, this was a love Watson, Golden Douglas, uh, Coleman, Singletary, Texans, McCaffrey, Parkinson kind of just filled it out with some of the best plays, right? Beyond that. And then, you know, attacked it that way.
Was there anything else you wanted to look at with the Mega Milly? This is nice to flip what could have even been a ticket win for all we know, right? Like Stoll to $100,000. Let's see their story right here quick. So this is by date. Let's go to the latest. And really hadn't had much going on. Looks like earlier this season, though, they might have won something.
I don't see, like, I don't know if it's all the tickets tracked or anything, but I was trying to see. $7,000 went off the mega Milly on a bullet last time. Had three entries into the mega Milly back in the end of January. One twenty $8,000. Yeah, not not as much going on until this one, but that's got to be a huge Bankroll ManagementBankroll management is how you size your DFS spending relative to the money you have set aside to play, called your bankroll, so normal losing streaks do not wipe you out.Write down your per-slate limit before the season starts. Spending rules are much easier to keep when you set them before a losing streak, not during one.Read the full definition of Bankroll Management boost there. So Skol eighty got the job done in that one.
Anything else you want to look at when it comes to the mega Milly? No, not really. I think we touched on pretty much everything as far as the lineups go. Um, yeah, I'm good. Yeah. And, uh, Josh, this was the other one I pulled up, said a lot of sharks in those. Yeah. The mega Milly is going to be shark infested if you will, but like I say, get a lot from the satellites, things like that.
You know, then a lot of the mid stakes players like myself, Blickle guys like that, that, you know, play, you know, In the mid range, Belman, you're the same way. You're not grinding out your thirty one eighties times nine every week or maxing this million or something like that. But when we win our tickets, we're coming up knowing that we can compete. I think it takes a lot more discipline, though, to not play it when you don't have a ticket.
That's the the main thing you want to focus on, because like a bizzle said, not worth it to worry about other people's bankrolls. People have the ability to max out or whatever. It's part of the game. Certainly true when it comes to that. Let's go back and look. Here let's see what else we got from yesterday um what was it somebody said I don't know if we'll find I'm gonna go to contest vault for a second This was the other thing.
So it's another tab here, just so you guys know, but you can go back, DraftKings or FanDuel, all the archived sports from, I don't know what the exact dates are on this, that you can go back, but you can basically look at anything you want on here from the research station that you see, Open Research. So you can go back. There's $32,000 seven hundred thirty four. I believe this is SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate that you can check out.
So that's pretty insane when you think about it. Just being able to go across. This is the rolling twenty four hours. But if we just look like maybe it's under world. DraftKings. NFL. NFL. And it might be as far as you can go back right now is January fourth. And there's already this, but you can see like, um, you know, this is from, what is this? A Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown slate. Let's go look at the main slate last week's. Right? This is their lineup that they won with.
They had two hundred ten points. What they beat against everybody else who was in it. You know, you can see all the other players that play in it. We saw, you know, here's need lunch money at the bottom of this one last week. And now this week near the top of the mega million notes is a Ship It Nation member. I know was in there, had a ticket. I saw when the $5,000 ticket and played it and didn't get it done.
Zolkin There we saw at the top. You know what this always does for me when we do this, it reminds me of how many really good DFS players there are. Cause you see it when you play, but there are so now, especially like there, the fields are hard to whoever said about the sharks. Yeah. A lot of sharks in these waters. Yeah. One thing people like, we've got a little bit of time, too.
I know we don't always do this, but let's look at the hundred dollar Single-EntryA single-entry contest allows each user exactly one lineup. It can be a cash game or a tournament.In single-entry, one or two contrarian decisions are usually enough. Pair a strong, popular core with a lower-owned piece instead of fading everything the field likes.Read the full definition of Single-Entry contest because, A, Respect My Ravens came. We pulled it up earlier, but Respect My Ravens got second in this for $40,000. So we can look at that. And then also just people like looking at the single entry because they I think sometimes people will look at it and say, hey, this is more Likely what I'd be playing in or something like that. Right. Be able to see it.
So. Yeah. Unlocking another DFSOS rabbit hole for me. That's for sure crazy. The contest vault, being able to go down there. Like I said, I don't think I'm going to use DFSOS for every feature, but the ability to be able to go in and use it for like, now I'm using sweat station, which will show off. Just showed you guys Slate Review. We're still in it right now. Contest Vault, I just showed you now someone like Abizzle's like, I'm going down another rabbit hole.
And Gary, our guy says, you may never come out. And Abizzle says, absolutely. Like that's the thing. Here's Josh, by the way, the owner of DFSOS says, Contest Vault will have yesterday's contest loaded later today. Had a delay processing this morning.
We'll be able to filter Matt's Stroud booty tank stack to see it we gotta just get josh on this show next Monday or something like we gotta you gotta go show us some of this stuff because it's insane what you're doing this site is so sick it's crazy that's why I say I'm gonna bring this up but you can still see it I think on the screen it's just hidden because obviously this is at the forefront it kind of blurs it or grays it out a little but Optimal LineupAn optimal lineup is a legal roster that maximizes fantasy points under the salary cap and roster rules. After games, it uses actual scores; before games, a projected optimal uses estimated scores and any lineup restrictions you set.When reviewing an optimal, replace its most surprising scorer with a realistic pregame alternative. Check whether the remaining construction still offered a credible path to winning your contest.Read the full definition of Optimal Lineup we used already on this show I don't use a lot of this other stuff.
Backtesting is great. If you guys have multiple sites that you're subscribed to, you can actually pull in. It's complimentary. It's meant to be complimentary, not free, but complimentary to your other sites, but you can pull in the ProjectionsDFS projections estimate a player's fantasy points for an upcoming slate using expected opportunities, performance and the contest's scoring rules. They describe an expected result, not a guaranteed score.Check the projection's update time and assumed role before using it. If news is already included, adjusting again for that same news can double-count its effect.Read the full definition of Projections and OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership, the last set that you download Lineup LockLineup lock is the deadline after which you cannot change your selected players. Without late swap, your entire lineup locks together; with late swap, which allows edits after the contest begins, players lock at their games' listed deadlines.After saving an edit, reopen your entered lineups and confirm the change reached every intended entry. Check the site's displayed lock times and time zone instead of relying on the television schedule.Read the full definition of Lineup Lock. And that's what I would base it off.
You can pull in anything, but I'm saying that's what I would base it off of and pull it right into the backtesting with like two click upload and be able to see how your stuff rates out. So if you're ever like, wait, should I still even be subscribed to the site or something like that? You can use it for that angle as well. There's a Bankroll ManagementBankroll management is how you size your DFS spending relative to the money you have set aside to play, called your bankroll, so normal losing streaks do not wipe you out.Write down your per-slate limit before the season starts. Spending rules are much easier to keep when you set them before a losing streak, not during one.Read the full definition of Bankroll Management tracker. There's weather. I use the news like crazy.
When we want to know the latest Injury NewsInjury news is information about a player's health that can change whether they compete, how much they play or how effectively they perform. In DFS, it also affects opportunities for teammates and opponents.Before an uncertain player's game locks, identify an alternative you can afford at each affected position. Check whether making that change would require another player whose game starts earlier.Read the full definition of Injury News, it's literally just pulling it all in as we go. So anyway, I don't know if there's a better deal out there for, you know, with code ship it. It's twenty nine dollars a month. It works out to a dollar a day. That's at least during NFL. Obviously, with Sweat Station, it's going to be different. That's a whole nother tool in its own right. But I'll show you guys that after.
But let's look at this hundred dollar Single-EntryA single-entry contest allows each user exactly one lineup. It can be a cash game or a tournament.In single-entry, one or two contrarian decisions are usually enough. Pair a strong, popular core with a lower-owned piece instead of fading everything the field likes.Read the full definition of Single-Entry, Matt. We got Jay Romero. I'm kind of just going to leave it like this instead of like opening each one right now, but use the forty nine point $4,000 salary. Two oh five point one eight. So what was it we said for the Milly Maker was two twenty one.
So fifteen points shy, even with one hundred, you know, even with one hundred and seventy five or whatever it is, one hundred and $70,000 more entries, give or take. Who knows what it was this week? Maybe it's one hundred and $50,000, but only. Anyway, your boy, Cleveland own Shadur Sanders. We got Shadur with, what do we got with Shadur? Ramondre, Jonah Coleman, Puka, Golden, Watkins, Warren, Lamb, Eagles. Wow. Just zero CorrelationCorrelation describes how two players' fantasy scores move together. Positively correlated players tend to have big games at the same time, usually because one player's success directly adds points for the other.When you build a tournament lineup, ask which of your players need the same thing to happen. The more of them that do, the higher your lineup's ceiling.Read the full definition of Correlation nation. The opposite of that, if you will.
But what do you think of this lineup? It's a bit interesting from that perspective. I think the second place lineup, with respect by Ravens, can say what you want about it. But the idea of Shadur, Concepcion, Bannon, then Mixigan, using that to afford some of the big boy plays. But this fit everything, right? You just kind of grab and go. What did you think of this one? Yeah, I mean, the top one is like... Pray and spray. Sometimes it's going to work, right?
Like sometimes all the One-OffIn NFL DFS, a one-off is a player you select outside your stacks, commonly a running back or a receiver without his quarterback. An opposing receiver intentionally paired with your stack instead serves as a bring-back.Before adding a one-off, compare him with an affordable teammate of your existing stack. Decide whether his individual upside is worth passing up that extra scoring connection.Read the full definition of One-Off are going to hit and grats to them. Like it happened there, you know, all the really good plays that you needed in one lineup, no correlation at all, you know, not really the best way to build lineups, but doesn't mean it's never going to work. Sometimes that stuff just happens. And that lineup got all the way to the top to your point, second lineup, more emblematic of like, an actual lineup.
And I mean that with all due respect to the first place lineup, because they got their money and that's all that matters. But for future success, building like the second lineup is going to pay off more. Yeah. A lot of SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate. That's going to be the lineup to take it down. Unfortunately for them, you had that outlier. Yeah. Sanders was another one, man.
Like I was on him and I had a couple of lineups with Sanders and that game was, was dead for three and a half quarters until it wasn't. So just like we talked about with the slate and letting the slate play out, Sometimes you've got to let these games play out. Points don't always come, and I learned this early in DFS and NBA especially.
Everyone expects if a guy's going to get forty Fantasy PointsFantasy points are the score a DFS contest assigns to a player or team defense by converting real sports statistics and results through its scoring rules. Your lineup's total determines your contest ranking.Before trusting an average, check which games it includes and whether the player's role has changed. Separate repeatable opportunities from a few unusually productive games.Read the full definition of Fantasy Points for it to be twenty in the first half, twenty in the second, you know, ten in each quarter. It doesn't work like that. Nothing in life hardly is ever linear like that. So points come in all shapes and sizes. In that Cleveland game, they came a lot in the fourth quarter in overtime. Yeah, agreed. And that's like part of it where sometimes these stacks just allow you to fit everything.
The thing about the second place lineup, even the first, I get what they're doing. Like the idea of if I go with the cheap quarterback, then what else can I get? In this case, they can get Ramondre, Kuka.
Lamb with Warren I mean there was that Mini-StackIn NFL DFS, a mini-stack usually pairs two players from the same game without either team's quarterback. Often a secondary group beside your main quarterback stack, it can pair a running back with an opposing receiver.Before locking a pair, describe how both players reach big scores together. Then ask whether that outcome would make an omitted quarterback or teammate difficult to beat.Read the full definition of Mini-Stack in there it's like if I'm not on Kittle or cmc could argue and make tons of cases I just think it's like it's not really set up for that it's just how we see things I looked it up it's not again people always take it the wrong way they won they they get the $100,000 it's just saying would it wouldn't it would a more experienced more consistent winning player build like this?
Probably not. Doesn't mean it's right or wrong. Just noting it's what's worked over the longer period of time consistently. So it's that note. This lineup here though, Shadur, Concepcion, Fannin, no Bring-BackIn the NFL, a bring-back is usually a wide receiver, tight end or running back from the team facing your quarterback stack.Pick the bring-back who gains the most when his team falls behind. In football that's usually the opponent's top pass catcher, not a running back who loses carries in a comeback.Read the full definition of Bring-Back. But I think it's a little bit interesting to talk about because when you go no run back, if I'm not going to run back Olave here to make this thing move, at least give me Puka and Lamb. I like that angle of it.
Let me get the guys that could still smash Olave and then fit in the rest. But also let me get Kenneth Walker in there too, don't forget. So it's like, you got, how can I fit Walker, Puka, and Lamb into a lineup and still make it make sense? Man, Shadur, Concepcion, Fannin, Singletary paired with his Giants D, and whatever second tight end fits there that you can get to. Who projected well, by the way? Dalton Schultz. So, I mean, he was up in our value stuff.
Didn't play well overall for what you needed. But anyway, still popped up there. The Love lineups fall just after that. You see an onslaught of them from there on out, right? With Love, Christian Watson, Golden, Dillard.
Douglas another thing too about Douglas was wasn't he like right in the flornoy range as well they were like the same price for it yeah so you know what's interesting to me and I heard you talking about this on your show you know yesterday morning I almost feel like at this point in DFS and DFS strategy the run back is a tad over, like, you just don't need it.
Not that it's bad, but even Rio's lineup last week, and this is what you talked about, it was a full Bengals stack. It didn't have Wandale or Ayamander. It had Gunnar Helm, but it's not like he won the lineup because of Gunnar Helm. Gunnar Helm was just super cheap, and it's not like Gunnar Helm made that game go. Like, Gunnar Helm had no impact on the Bengals doing what they did, which is what you're bringing a Bring-BackIn the NFL, a bring-back is usually a wide receiver, tight end or running back from the team facing your quarterback stack.Pick the bring-back who gains the most when his team falls behind. In football that's usually the opponent's top pass catcher, not a running back who loses carries in a comeback.Read the full definition of Bring-Back for. So to that point, like...
I'm not saying that you have to not bring a run back. I just think people need to think outside the box a little bit. Yeah, it's a good point. Like I said, sometimes it's there because other times it really makes it go. But what I like about it, what I try and explain to people too, is sometimes it, like using the example of the third place lineup, Love, Watson, Golden, Douglas.
But Douglas is not going to project the same as, and especially with like Henry ended up playing and like the, I know AJ Browns out and other stuff, but I'm just saying, it's like when you have Flournoy with no pickings and you have Adonai Mitchell with no Garrett Wilson, you have Antonio Williams with the injuries for the Commanders, then why would you land on Douglas? You probably wouldn't, but when would you land on Douglas?
Well, with the stack, he's just the piece that fits the other side. So that's what some of the people sometimes like, man, How did this Person get to love Watson Golden for this CeilingCeiling is the high end of a player's or lineup's realistic range of fantasy scores. It describes a big performance that could happen when things go well, not the expected score or an absolute maximum.Describe what must happen for each player to have a huge game. Then check whether those conditions help or hurt the other players in your lineup.Read the full definition of Ceiling outcome, but also avoid all that wide receiver chalk? Well, they ran it back and they use it in the flag. Like there's just other stuff and they still got to another guy that was expensive up there. That was a really good project. Like it just, that's what it can do for your lineup.
We've seen it so many times in the past. I think that's another important thing to make note of. Got some more comments here. I'm going to bring up quickly. Josh also says, Um, Nate said he's working with it through Claude for, um, using the LLM to tie it all together. And then he's got his DFSOS reviews summarized into evergreen strategy and can use it that way. And then, uh, Josh said he's got the MPC server, uh, soft launch ready to go with that.
So the experience should get better for that soon. So anyone wants to use it for that perspective makes sense too. What else? He said everyone tilts so early. Definitely a thing. We brought it up earlier. Like I said, Celeste was most definitely probably tilting down to like one Jordan Love lineup and one Purdy lineup and thinking both were in trouble because the Jordan Love lineup still had Dulcich with such a low score in it that you're like, man, Imagine the coverage.
It's in that puka or lamb either. Yeah. You're seeing everybody crush you. You're seeing your three in there and you're like, well, the only thing you could say to yourself, if you could even stay positive is the only chance I've got of getting my eighty $5,000 back is if Watson and this stack go for like a hundred plus points. And even then I'm not sure. And then they literally go for a hundred plus points. That's that's the point.
Matt says, no one likes naked quarterback, but playing naked quarterback at $4,000 with three options to Spending UpSpending up means choosing a higher-priced player over a cheaper alternative, using more of your lineup's salary budget at that spot. You may also hear it called paying up.Build a version with your preferred expensive player and another without. Before choosing, check whether either version relies on a cheap player whose expected role still depends on unresolved injury news.Read the full definition of Spending Up and get isn't as crazy. It seems may not be optimal over and over, but it's not so bad of a build. If anything, it's fine. I think Sam over at ETR did an article on this this past week, and you can definitely get away with it. And it works more than people might think if you've got the $4,000 quarterback. I just think it's also...
Again, the data, the data. So you got to run with it. But I'm saying like the idea of the Sample is what? I think it was twenty six times or so. Again, that's a lot for NFL. It's like dog years when people talk like NFL years and Sample size. You can't ask for much. We don't we only get so much. But just noting it.
To me, it's not the problem of is it possible and can you do it and what it gets you. It's you got to go handpick all those spots. So good luck handpicking nine things. I'm going to pick three or four and see how it goes. And on this SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate, again, he got there in that one lineup at the top of that tournament. Nowhere else. And you didn't really see it anywhere. It was almost always with those stacks. They made it easier on themselves.
So trying to be that magic player, like I said, it's nothing against Jay Romero. I just looked it up, but that's their only, I mean, that's their win. They got it now. Good for them and congrats. And I'm not shitting on them. I'm noting that's awesome that they did it and use it to their advantage. I'm just saying that strategy is a lot harder to make work over time. And it's been proven out on the other stuff.
So the stacks, the triple stacks, the runbacks, things like that. Got to think about that too. And That's why the other lineup right after it, like I said, it's like it's right there. Didn't get the job done. But the idea of just you could still say, OK, let me get away that this gets there and then less things need to happen. And you still got coverage with a secondary in that. And then you fill in Lamb, Puka, Walker and wherever you land.
I'd still rather that going in. The output is the output and the results, the result. Again, congrats to Jay Romero. I think it's just, you know, thinking about it from that perspective. I'm sure a lot of people with those lineups, you know, those lineups weren't, you know, super rare, the $4,000 quarterback, whether it be lock or Shador, and then the Puka lamb. Sure. A lot of those people were sitting in a really, really good shape before the Packers game. Yeah.
Oh, for sure. That's the other thing, right? You got to just, when you're anti-sweating the, you know, last week when our guy Rio got the Milly Maker done, the anti-sweat was. There was no sweat. That was the sweat for that tournament. You'll ever see. Doesn't make it any easier, right? But at the end of the day, when you compare... All the weeks talking about the NFL, there's gotta be like every other week would be a way worse sweat than that.
He said it himself on his post for the FFWC ticket. This is a way different sweat, much sweatier than what he had to deal with the week before, because he's got all the, he's got love stacks come and he's got other people with different, um, you know, CMCs and different fat. Like there's so many guys coming at you versus last week. It wasn't nearly as much going on in the afternoon.
To your point, whenever you're in a sweat, winning the Mills, going to the afternoon games, hopefully that happens with me soon, you're going to feel like it's a crazy sweat no matter what the circumstances. For sure you are, because anything can happen. Right. But to the second point, it's like an outsider. It would have taken some outland, some outlier type stuff for him to even get beat.
There was only a couple times where he was even within a play of getting caught, which in that type of tournament is insane. Well, it's a good spot for this, but I mean, we won't have the numbers now, but this was the week. Josh was testing it the week of Rio's Milly. So it was in beta testing, and I was able to see some screenshots that he was sending over his partners, right?
Going through our partnership, he was setting us up with a screenshot that would show the percentage. And some even thought the percentages were light. Anything can happen, so it's whatever. But I think it was like, you know, Half. Eighty-six percent after the third quarter. It's like that's got to feel much better than like there's no way it was close to that yesterday in some of those spots for people. They were getting chased down by Love, Watson, Golden, Ramondre, DeMario Douglas. People like Matt Collins.
He gets a late touchdown. There was just so much shit going on for sure. Which is normal. Like to your point, all you can do is compare it. Like, yeah, winning the mill is going to be sweating no matter what. But when you compare that SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate to basically any other slate ever, I mean, that's as comfy as you can get. I mean, he had like a ten point, which a ten point lead in that tournament is unheard of. So just awesome to see.
Hopefully it's me and you next week splitting it up top. Oh, I'd love anything like that. Yeah. I think that... Same thing here makes a good point. Like quarterback and ride from, from the slate overview or the slate dynamics, you had so many options at running back that were cheap enough. And you had the Y and you had that. I'm just saying, again, it's all like, again, field size will matter a lot more for something like this.
This is still a $4,000 four hundred and forty four Person tournament. And they they got there. It's over. It's done. We don't need to go rehash it. I'm just saying it's like it was it's for like for me. Usually six hundred, a thousand or less or something like that. And I'll think about that way because then it kind of does just add up in the... This... This trophy here, the second place at King of the Beach back in the day was twenty twenty one.
That was a Minshew naked $4,000 quarterback. But the guy who won Minshew and Goedert. So it was still if you had to just stack that, it still was for all the money. And it's just an example of what was clearly existed. I played like a cheap tight end. I could have moved defense down, Goedert up and I win. It's like things like that where overall I still think. And again, you could still put the cheap Singletary with the Giants.
You could have went Shadur, Concepcion, and then Ollie Gordon or whoever else you wanted to use there. I know not all of them came through. I'm just using whoever you got. Coleman. So Shadur, Coleman, Singletary, Concepcion, and the Giants D. You still got tons of CorrelationCorrelation describes how two players' fantasy scores move together. Positively correlated players tend to have big games at the same time, usually because one player's success directly adds points for the other.When you build a tournament lineup, ask which of your players need the same thing to happen. The more of them that do, the higher your lineup's ceiling.Read the full definition of Correlation more than picking random dudes and then fill out random dudes. And you're still better off that way long term. Yeah. It's like in baseball.
There's going to be times where guys are going to use lineups with just One-OffIn NFL DFS, a one-off is a player you select outside your stacks, commonly a running back or a receiver without his quarterback. An opposing receiver intentionally paired with your stack instead serves as a bring-back.Before adding a one-off, compare him with an affordable teammate of your existing stack. Decide whether his individual upside is worth passing up that extra scoring connection.Read the full definition of One-Off of guys that hit home runs. But ultimately, on any single day, that's so much harder than... You know, he appreciated that. Yeah. You can't, you're not superstitious about it.
I don't believe like the, by the way, um, that proved for everybody, you know, I love the big guy in the sky, our IP to the big guy, but I've always, the only thing I pushed back on him ever, cause he's just the best, but was the mush stuff. It's not real. Like Rio got, if that's the case, real got mushed like $4,000 times. So, and then I, I agree with you. That stuff does not exist.
That said, I think there's got to be etiquette involved in someone's winning. You know what I mean? Yes. Most people don't hit someone up on it because they're not sure if they're that type of Person. But at the end of the day, it has no effect on the outcome. Totally agree. To each their own. But I get it. I do get that.
For me, even when I've won like a Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown slate and people are congratulating me in the Discord, sometimes I'll just wait because there's stat corrections and all that. Like, it's so close in showdown. So I was like, hey, you know, people... And then you'll see people in the chat. I think Newens, who's here, has said before, like, you know, Tambo ain't going to respond to that until this thing's final. Because I just... I like to know that it's legit and in there.
Although... I did hear a story. This is crazy, actually. We're getting close to the end anyway, and whatever. Whoever's here probably wants to be here. But I heard a story that somebody won a milli. The money was put into their account, and then it had to get taken out on a stat correction. Isn't that crazy? That's insane.
The only thing I can think of is that there was a Monday night football SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate or something where like there was a stack correction after because a sack was like a QB running. I can't remember. Like with a the stupid lateral shit, you know, where they always calculate it wrong. And then if they close, but I think if they close off on you, there's got to be some sort of action. Legal. I agree. That's all I was thinking about.
But yeah, definitely interesting from that. Let's see. One note I will say on this, it's coming up in an hour. I've got some family stuff today, so it will actually be Hoop and Title at two p.m. Eastern. We'll be a two-man booth today for tonight's game. I'll be back around with all my stuff up on the site and everything that once I'm done with it. But just so you guys know, two-man booth coming up this afternoon. And OBJ, yeah, you got activated?
We'll see. They got Mills Price. They got Ty Felton. I know some of those guys are more special teams guys, but it's a pretty interesting slate for tonight when you've got Josh Allen, James Cook, Justin Jefferson, Wentz is on the slate. There's a lot of different ways that you can go. Just trying to see if there's any more comments in here for this. I don't have too much else.
I like how everyone's talking about like me and you talking about chopping and a couple other people. And then Marquis was like, I'm shipping tonight. Not splitting it with nobody. Yeah, good mentality to have. We definitely want to stay positive on Mondays, especially the week's not over yet. Gary's reminiscing, said I won two FFWC over Brandon Adams via stat correction. That's got to feel good. I don't have too many that I can recall. I guess that's like the nature. It's like a poker thing, right?
You lose your pocket aces to pocket kings and you're pissed and you remember it forever, but you don't remember when your kings busted the aces. But I will say from a DFS perspective, I don't remember very many times where a stat correction worked in my favor, but I remember a lot of times where it worked against me and I'm like, damn, now I just lost this or I was winning this. What happened or whatever?
And I see that, but I'm sure it's happened both just as equal. I'm just not remembering it. I honestly stack corrections like nowadays I think are more rare than anything. So I can't remember the last time a true like stack correction took me from first to second or vice versa. Maybe it's just my memories gone blank on all this. Yeah. All right, man. Any other thoughts from the week nine that has been so far for you, the main slate stuff?
Anything else you want to bring to fruition from that? I guess the only other thing we didn't talk about that's worth a minute was the Pickens last minute getting ruled out, where it was always possible. It just wasn't thought to be that was going to be the case. And then you get the Flournoy you know, spot where he just picks up a ton of steam based off of that, obviously for good reason, but on paper and whatever, whatever.
But do you have any thoughts on like when those things hit late? That's another one where I can't remember a time again, plenty of times it's worked out, but with like receivers specifically, I can only remember the negative ones. Like, you know, Pickens, by the way, it was another Pickens time actually. It was when he was on those Steelers. Pickens gets ruled out, ends up being Calvin Austin the third day. Also, we could go fit Barkley at an expensive price tag at the time.
And Barkley fails and Calvin Austin fails. Meanwhile, Pat Freiermuth has like, at the onesie cheap tight end position. But I don't think, um, The wide receiver ones, running backs, totally different, right? Running backs, those are usually big upgrades. We're getting a much cheaper guy in a crazy spot now, et cetera, et cetera. But did not work out for Pickens OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership yesterday. No, it didn't.
And I think your point about running backs versus wide receivers in that scenario is really worth reiterating because running backs are just more projectable because they're getting guaranteed touches where wide receivers aren't because it takes someone else to get them the ball. And whenever you have a wide receiver out, people kind of just assume that it's like the number two is going to become the number one, the number three, the number... It's not that easy.
Like number twos often thrive because the number one is getting the number one cornerback and all the attention. And sometimes it just doesn't translate. So that's why even yesterday when we got the Pickens news, you know, obviously lamb is good enough where he doesn't need a boost. He can get there with pickings no matter what, but people I knew were going to jump to Florida. And I like that too.
But what about the other guys like Javonte Williams, who was already in a good spot that maybe not have got boosted because of landing out where I thought he was going to get a real boost. So yeah, I do think that's important. What you said, the difference between running backs, like last week, we had a similar situation. A lot of people thought Brees Hall was going to play. He ended up out. Well, Braylon Allen was a smash play and he was guaranteed touches.
So you felt more comfortable with it. Whereas this week. Right.
Good things like we know what he's all about too like that's definitely thing Florida has been in the mix so I get it I just I liked your point about that in the end the answer was more lamb and lamb just gets all the action and he crushes that that play before half or whatever it was the big throw to him and then the next throw for a touchdown like that's just that's just what they do sometimes and that's crazy but I like that breakdown for sure It's crazy to me that wide receiver performances yesterday.
You would have thought yesterday morning, Ja'Marr Chase's first half, he was going to be the best receiver of the day. And he wasn't even top three. Yeah, it's crazy, man. They were talking about it before and someone brought it up here now about Burrow versus Love. It's on the screen there. It says Stephens A. Isn't sold on Joe Burrow as the best QB right now. I'd probably keep Joe Burrow. I know Jordan loves the man and yesterday and did all his things.
I actually think he's great. We talked about it before, making fun of Nades with stuff, which he's been there, done that. He doesn't need to hear it again, but it's like the... The way they're going, Golden specifically, he's dropped more touchdowns than some guys will get all season and still got the numbers on top of that. So that's how good that guy's been. Watson is just a beast even outside of the ambulance situation, right?
Ambulance gate or whatever you want to call it. He still has been insane. They just chuck, man. It's crazy. Love definitely looks good. I know a lot of people. What was it? Malik? Who was there before? Malik Willis? Everyone told him to keep Malik Willis. Couldn't even get it done against Detroit yesterday. Couldn't even get it done against Detroit yesterday. And you got, meanwhile, you got Love on the road just dusting boys off and just crushing it with his guys going into New England.
So, yeah, pretty interesting stuff overall. He says, I feel no one ever credits Green Bay, but they're the first to dog on them. Yeah, I'm not dogging on them, man. I'm propping them up with you. I think it's awesome. They're super fun to watch too, right? Like, they're just fun. They just chuck it, man. I don't know how the Jacobs injury will affect them.
If at all, they got those other backups that can fill in and do whatever, but you know, he hurt his hand or something yesterday, but it's just with those two receivers, man, he just chucks and they are somehow always open. It's crazy how good they both are. Like I said, it's just nuts to watch. So, I mean, obviously that's the same when you can say about chase and Higgins.
And for me, I'm still, it is what it is not hating on Green Bay. I'm just noting it's sad as a Ravens fan because their season is so beat up too. But just to note, when you go to, The Cincy side, the other, you know, the, another team in the AFC North and look at it. It's like Joe Burrow, Chase Higgins. These guys are just so good.
The clip yesterday of like Joe Burrow in LSU with Ja'Marr Chase, with AJ Terrell on defense and he cooks them. And then the exact same play yesterday on AJ Terrell again. And that it's just wild, man. So yeah. All fun stuff. Good slate coming up. Check us back out, guys, at two p.m. Eastern hoop and title. We'll be back to break down the Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown stuff.
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They always got the quarterback, the cornerback. Matchup stuff. It's like these receivers know what's happening and where they're going. It's same stuff we talk about in weather. I'm going to use that one for next time too. When we talk about weather, The offense knows what's about to happen. The defense has to react. It's just the way it works. But like proactive, better than reactive, almost always. And then I think about like preparation in DFS.
We talk about my motivation for the day is coming to the very end. But preparation greater than planning. We all plan to play these slates. That's what we're doing. We're playing DFS.
But those here watching this and those putting in the extra time and you know if you are or you're being lazy or not, but those putting in and actually preparing for the slate at hand and getting ahead of it, typically, typically we'll end up having better results over long-term because they're putting in the work. It just got to wait and be patient and wait for it to pay off. All right. That's going to do it for this one, guys.
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