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Bills vs Vikings NFL DFS Showdown | MNF Week 9 Showdown Shippers | Picks, Plays & Process

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From the archive. This breakdown is for the Monday, November 9 NFL slate. Salaries, weather and picks were for that day.

The Short Version

Hoop and Titletown break down Bills vs Vikings with scarce cheap value making roster construction difficult. Josh Allen is the priority, with overweight captain exposure worth taking chances on punts. James Cook also gets captain interest, backed by an 89.5-yard rushing prop and an expected run-heavy Buffalo approach. Justin Jefferson gets overweight captain interest because Carson Wentz should deliver the ball more reliably. Wentz is a strong flex option, with some captain support.

Ty Johnson ($3,400) is the favorite running back value, with passing work supporting roughly double the projected 10% ownership. Keon Coleman offers leverage against popular T.J. Hockenson builds, while Khalil Shakir provides another ownership discount. Cheap Vikings receivers require limited exposure and a maximum of one together. Ben Yurosek and Dawson Knox offer alternatives with established playing time. Both kickers have meaningful upside; Hockenson draws split opinions because his salary could drive excessive ownership.

Plays Mentioned

PlayCallThe TakeAt
CORE Expected to appear in most lineups because his chance of making the optimal lineup in captain or flex is extremely high, although flex exposure preferences vary. 6:07
CAPTAIN Target overweight captain exposure at a projected 25%, accepting cheap punts to afford his rushing upside. 9:43
CAPTAIN A primary captain option for an expected run-heavy Buffalo game plan, with an 89.5-yard rushing prop reinforcing the appeal at $10,400. 10:08
CAPTAIN Target overweight captain exposure because Wentz should give him more opportunities than Murray did. 11:24
CAPTAIN A secondary captain option if Jefferson does not lead Minnesota's receiving production, ranked ahead of Hockenson and DJ Moore among the alternatives discussed. 11:48
CAPTAIN Opinions split on captain usage, with support at $9,000 because three touchdowns could go to three different receivers while Minnesota plays from behind. 14:31
CAPTAIN A contrarian captain option at $7,200 and roughly 3% ownership, with a receiving prop close to the more popular Buffalo alternatives. 15:00
CORE A favored flex play with a high floor, established weapons and a good matchup, with ownership expected to exceed the displayed 33%. 18:16
Opinions split with Mason, but Jones is preferred for Minnesota trailing scripts because he should handle more passing work despite costing $600 more on DraftKings. 22:41
VALUE Keep only limited exposure when building many lineups to help afford expensive captains; he is not recommended for most smaller portfolios. 23:05
VALUE The favorite running back value at $3,400 because of his passing work and usage when on the field, with interest in roughly double his projected 10% ownership. 23:10
VALUE A capped punt for large lineup portfolios, preferred to DeeJay Dallas because of his established role, but less appealing at $4,400 on FanDuel. 24:16
CORE A strong flex play alongside captain exposure, with substantial interest supported by his rushing prop and touchdown odds. 25:52
Opinions split with Jones, with support for Mason's cheaper DraftKings salary and stronger rushing and touchdown props, especially in Minnesota-leading builds. 25:52
VALUE A $200 punt for Josh Allen captain builds whose salary could make even a zero workable on this slate. 27:50
CORE A priority receiver with Wentz taking over, ranked alongside Addison as the preferred receiving options on the slate. 28:40
A positively viewed flex receiver, ranked alongside Jefferson as a preferred option over Buffalo's expensive receivers. 28:40
LEVERAGE A preferred way to get different at $5,800 and approximately 10% ownership, leveraging Hockenson builds while playing substantial snaps and earning Allen's trust. 30:00
LEVERAGE An ownership-based flex alternative to DJ Moore, costing $600 less with approximately 10 percentage points less ownership. 30:00
Playable, particularly with Josh Allen captain, but receiver rankings were split and his $10,000 FanDuel salary was considered difficult. 30:25
VALUE A $1,000 DraftKings punt for larger portfolios with an uncertain receiver role; use at most one of Felton, Price and Beckham, and check warmups for first-team usage. 30:51
VALUE A favorite cheap Minnesota pass catcher because his playing time is established in the Josh Oliver role, with additional appeal at $1,600 on FanDuel. 36:17
VALUE A cheap alternative for expensive captain builds because he will be on the field, with overweight exposure supported despite very limited recent production. 37:26
A playable tight end with receiver-like usage, efficiency and big-play upside, although $7,400 is an awkward price and rankings against Shakir and Moore were split. 39:59
CHALK His $5,400 salary and scarce alternatives could push flex ownership from the displayed 37% toward 45%; willingness to play him versus go underweight was split. 39:59
A blocking tight end with a likely zero who was discouraged for listeners outside very large lineup portfolios. 39:59
VALUE A favored midrange option with repeated double-digit scoring upside and an offense willing to take field goals, with limited captain exposure also considered. 41:31
VALUE A favored midrange option after recent scores of 13, 17 and 16, with one preference over Reichard based on a $400 discount and lower ownership. 41:53
Bills DST VALUE A supported midrange option in Buffalo-winning builds, with interest in overweight exposure if Minnesota struggles after Jefferson is contained. 42:46
Vikings DST LEVERAGE Opinions split, but there was explicit interest in overweight exposure at 9% ownership because aggressive blitzing can create unexpected defensive production. 43:35
VALUE A $200 DraftKings punt with a possible path to Minnesota's third receiver role, favored over Price by the end of the discussion but best limited to larger portfolios. 46:26
Initially acceptable as a capped salary punt, but the discussion ended with him behind Felton and Beckham and possible substantial underweight exposure or exclusion. 46:26

DFS Terms Used on This Show

SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate▶ Said at 2:50 Single-EntryA single-entry contest allows each user exactly one lineup. It can be a cash game or a tournament.In single-entry, one or two contrarian decisions are usually enough. Pair a strong, popular core with a lower-owned piece instead of fading everything the field likes.Read the full definition of Single-Entry▶ Said at 3:16 Roster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Read the full definition of Roster Construction▶ Said at 6:35 OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership▶ Said at 7:02 Multi-EntryMulti-entry means entering more than one lineup into the same contest. A contest's entry limit, such as 3, 20 or 150, sets how many lineups one user can submit.Set your total spend for the slate first, then divide it into entries. Multi-entry should spread a fixed budget across more outcomes, not raise how much you put at risk.Read the full definition of Multi-Entry▶ Said at 8:30 ProjectionsDFS projections estimate a player's fantasy points for an upcoming slate using expected opportunities, performance and the contest's scoring rules. They describe an expected result, not a guaranteed score.Check the projection's update time and assumed role before using it. If news is already included, adjusting again for that same news can double-count its effect.Read the full definition of Projections▶ Said at 8:30 ContrarianA contrarian play or lineup is one built around choices most of the field will not make, such as low-owned players, unpopular teams or an unusual salary structure.Pick one or two contrarian spots per lineup and ground each in a real reason. The rest of the roster can look like the field.Read the full definition of Contrarian▶ Said at 8:55 Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown▶ Said at 10:08 ChalkChalk is the most popular, highly owned play on a slate. The term comes from sports betting, where the favorite is called the chalk.Don't label chalk good or bad. Ask whether each popular play deserves its ownership, then decide which chalk you'll eat and which you'll fade.Read the full definition of Chalk▶ Said at 14:05 Game ScriptGame script is how a game's score and time remaining influence its pace, play choices and player opportunities. In football, teams protecting a lead often run more, while teams chasing a deficit often pass more.Before locking a lineup, ask who keeps playing if your expected script reverses. Check passing-down roles and backup rotations instead of assuming a team's leading rusher handles every situation.Read the full definition of Game Script▶ Said at 14:31 Flex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL▶ Said at 15:00 Spending UpSpending up means choosing a higher-priced player over a cheaper alternative, using more of your lineup's salary budget at that spot. You may also hear it called paying up.Build a version with your preferred expensive player and another without. Before choosing, check whether either version relies on a cheap player whose expected role still depends on unresolved injury news.Read the full definition of Spending Up▶ Said at 15:20 Duplicate LineupsDuplicate lineups are entries in the same DFS contest with identical player selections and scoring assignments, including any multiplier positions. In standard cash-prize tournaments, these entries tie and share the combined prizes for the places they occupy.Use the actual prize table to calculate your payout in a first-place tie with two, five or ten entries. Compare those outcomes before choosing between similarly strong builds.Read the full definition of Duplicate Lineups▶ Said at 17:30 RakeRake is the share of entry fees the site keeps as its fee instead of paying it out as prizes. It is the gap between total entry fees and the total prize pool.Compare rake between contests you would enter anyway. A slightly higher rake can be worth it in a softer field, but when the fields look similar, take the contest that keeps less.Read the full definition of Rake▶ Said at 17:30 FloorIn daily fantasy sports (DFS), a player's floor is an estimate of the low end of their realistic fantasy scoring range. It describes downside, not a guaranteed minimum or their average projected score.Before trusting a floor estimate, check what could change the player's role today: a returning teammate, a minutes restriction, a lineup change or a different game script.Read the full definition of Floor▶ Said at 18:16 Optimal LineupAn optimal lineup is a legal roster that maximizes fantasy points under the salary cap and roster rules. After games, it uses actual scores; before games, a projected optimal uses estimated scores and any lineup restrictions you set.When reviewing an optimal, replace its most surprising scorer with a realistic pregame alternative. Check whether the remaining construction still offered a credible path to winning your contest.Read the full definition of Optimal Lineup▶ Said at 18:43 Late SwapIn NFL contests with late swap, you can change unlocked afternoon or evening players after earlier games begin. Only games included in that contest's player pool are available.Before the first games lock, identify affordable backup combinations for your later players. Check that each combination fits the open positions, then confirm your saved changes in every affected entry.Read the full definition of Late Swap▶ Said at 20:15 Player PoolA player pool is the set of players you consider using in your DFS lineups for a slate, the games or events included in a contest. The term can also mean everyone available to select in that contest.Keep a replacement beside each uncertain player, noting the salary and position you need. Recheck those alternatives when news changes so your shortlist still produces usable lineups.Read the full definition of Player Pool▶ Said at 20:30 LeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Read the full definition of Leverage▶ Said at 39:36

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0:05

All systems go. Clear for lift off. What is going on, everybody? Happy Monday. No Tambo in the booth, so it is Hoop and I breaking down this NFL Monday Night Football. We got the Vikings versus the Bills. The Bills traveling to U.S. Bank Stadium as three-and-a-half point favorites. Taking on the Vikings, who I don't know if this is a benching of Kyler Murray.

0:55

I'm not too sure if I believe what injury we're looking at right here, but I think they want to test out, hey, this team's good. They're probably going to be in the playoffs. Is it Carlson Wentz? Is it Kyler Murray? Who gives us a better chance to win? I see you shaking your head in agreement, Hoop. Is that how you see it? What are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, they're definitely bunching it.

1:14

So it is wild just thinking about it in the last two seasons, two teams that had to fake an injury for Kyler because he's so bad on the field. And again, I mean, I take my owls when needed, but I'm going to take the victory laps. When they're warranted and, you know, I've been saying how bad Kyler is for years. And it's just wild to me that that's who they chose to sign. And now it's either Carlson Wentz or they make a trade.

1:38

I honestly think like if Wentz looks like buns tonight, you could see them make a trade for somebody, um, because the trade deadline is tomorrow, so it will be interesting to see. But with that sort of defense, I mean, their defense is phenomenal. Like, you just need, like, a competent Person back there. Like, you don't even need a mid-tier quarterback. You just need, like, a game manager to not make mistakes and just make, like, a couple plays.

2:04

He was incapable of making even, like, a couple plays. It's wild how bad he is. And, yeah, it's definitely a benching. And it happened to him last year, and it happened again. It's crazy. And we'll see how it all plays out. But, I mean, in terms of fantasy, it's definitely better with Wentz back there. You can at least get the ball to the pass catchers. Yeah, we'll definitely talk about that.

2:24

I think the line would probably be pretty similar to what it is now, throwing at point dogs. I don't think Vegas is seeing too much of a difference between these two either. Got to say hi to some people in chat before we get started. Our man Gary, Bull, Sean Sully, Nades, Avery, Philly, Coach Sav, Oracle. Avery again, Nate D, Mr. Riken, Oracle again. We do have Nate talking where all the J-Love haters at. He definitely played well.

2:50

Matthew Golden put his pants on, dropped his pants, I should say, on Christian Gonzalez. What a crazy SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate yesterday. Shout out to a couple people. Hebrew Cheetah gets the job done with a qualifier seat. No surprise there. Shocks. I think it's Josh Shocks. He plays a bunch of different sports. He had $50,000 twice. So shout out to him. One hundred thousand dollars. Then it's like respect my Ravens, I believe, is his username on DraftKings.

3:16

Hundred bucks into $40,000 in the hundred dollar Single-EntryA single-entry contest allows each user exactly one lineup. It can be a cash game or a tournament.In single-entry, one or two contrarian decisions are usually enough. Pair a strong, popular core with a lower-owned piece instead of fading everything the field likes.Read the full definition of Single-Entry. So. A lot of other screenshots as well. I'm sorry if I missed you. Those are just three that I saw that were a highlight. So hope everybody had a great week nine so far. And if not, yeah, we got one last shot. Five hundred thousand up top. I promise anyone that splits up top today will be pretty happy. Hope anything you want to say about yesterday's week nine.

3:40

Otherwise, any thoughts about this game in terms of DFS? I mean, just overall yesterday was, I mean, just one day of football. And that Packers win was phenomenal, man. Like that's a huge win going into Foxborough and just like dropping your nutsack right on them and just beating their ass right from the beginning. Just not even competitive game against a team that everyone thought was pretty solid. I mean, I was looking at the look ahead line. They had the Patriots favored.

4:08

Over the Lions in that Germany game on Sunday. That immediately flipped to the Lions now favored by like three after that performance yesterday. That was very impressive. And that division, man, absolutely insane. I mean, a lot of people are saying the Bears are the best team in football. They might be. Vikings, Lions, Packers, all what, six and three or better? Just absolutely insane. And it's going to be a fun, fun finish for sure. Yeah, we talked about it.

4:35

I don't know if I said it last week or two weeks ago. I got all four teams coming out of the NFC North. We will see if that holds true. Still a lot of football to play. Yeah, sportsbooks absolutely got smashed. I don't know if you saw that. Destroyed. Destroyed. Because the Packers were actually one of the more public dogs that people were on. So what a crazy week in the NFL.

4:56

Okay is it going to continue I don't do you have any uh take on this three and a half point I think I actually do think the Vikings are not very good and I think the Bills will they got I think they got exploited a little bit uh last game like they have obviously their defense is good don't get me wrong but when you start to play some of these high-end teams like the defense matters a little bit less Lions I mean gibbs just took it to them um it's going to be tough I think for them to stop Josh Allen and I think they're going to kind of see what how the Lions What the Lions did last weekend probably implemented.

5:29

I think we do see a lot of James Cook tonight for that reason, because Jameer Gibbs was kind of the reason the Lions won that game. I mean, the second half, they just kept pounding it with them. So I do expect I expect the Bills to win tonight and I expect them to run it quite a bit. That makes sense. Yeah, the Lions implemented that game plan.

5:46

I mean, you just got to stop a workhorse like a Gibbs or a James Cook or something for four quarters. It wears on you. The Vikings were great in the first half against the Lions last week. Gibbs did nothing. But once you keep feeding them the ball, Gibbs – stamina and energy in that big offensive line. The push gets a little greater, and then the second half is where it really wears down on him. Could see that for sure today.

6:07

I expect Josh Allen to use his legs as well. Know Kyler, which we talked about. Also know Joshua Palmer, which isn't the biggest news. He has wide receiver four, but hey, it's showing like Skyler Bell, or min price at two hundred, showing five percent. Value's pretty tough. I'll let you start broad SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate actually about this one. I think it's a relatively tough slate. Yeah, I mean, you have Josh Allen on the slate, so you're going to want him in a majority of the teams you build.

6:35

So that immediately, as soon as you do that, you're like, all right, who are the cheap pieces that I can put into this lineup? And it falls off a cliff really quickly, like really, really quickly. So we'll get to it when we get into the position-by-position stuff. But Roster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Read the full definition of Roster Construction is probably going to end up being a little bit difficult because the odds of Josh Allen being – either in captain or flex optimal are through the roof.

7:02

So you're going to want him in just about every single lineup that you build. And then if you start looking at pieces on the other side, you start looking at Justin Jefferson expensive. The quarterbacks are always up there. So it dries up quick. I think you're going to see guys like TJ Hawkins get a lot of OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership because the price tag is $5,400.

7:21

You're going to see, you know, probably those Minnesota running backs get a decent bit because their price fairly Mason $6,400 kickers, which when we get to kickers, the numbers are off the charts. Well, we'll dive into a little bit more, but kickers, I think, get a little more ownership because you're just going to need some of those middle tier guys because the value is pretty non-existent when you start looking at it.

7:45

It falls off a cliff in a hurry, and we'll talk about it when we kind of go through position by position, but there's not much there. Yeah, same thoughts over here. Value's really tough, which is going to lead the Hockenson, the Kickers, even defenses, more so Bills as the favorites than the Vikings, but I still do think Vikings might be a little higher on than we're showing right now.

8:06

If you want to play Josh Allen, Justin Jefferson, James Cook, Carlson Wentz, which you probably do want to play them because there is still uncertainty at Vikings running backs with Mason or Aaron Jones. Addison's been fine, but it's really clear. The big boys, Josh Allen, James Cook, Justin Jefferson, and I will throw, I guess, Carlson Wentz a little bit in there due to his price. Those are the spends that people want.

8:30

If you run ProjectionsDFS projections estimate a player's fantasy points for an upcoming slate using expected opportunities, performance and the contest's scoring rules. They describe an expected result, not a guaranteed score.Check the projection's update time and assumed role before using it. If news is already included, adjusting again for that same news can double-count its effect.Read the full definition of Projections, look at optimals, you are going to jam at least two of those in Multi-EntryMulti-entry means entering more than one lineup into the same contest. A contest's entry limit, such as 3, 20 or 150, sets how many lineups one user can submit.Set your total spend for the slate first, then divide it into entries. Multi-entry should spread a fixed budget across more outcomes, not raise how much you put at risk.Read the full definition of Multi-Entry, and then that is why it leads you to the Hawkins, the kickers, just the middling stuff there. Cheap value is really gross. I do think we see a lot of three-three builds and probably more four-two Vikings than Bills, if I had to guess, mainly because I think there is a little more value on the Vikings stuff than the Bills, but it'll be pretty close.

8:55

I do think it's going to be a lot more balanced. Five-ones on either side will be more ContrarianA contrarian play or lineup is one built around choices most of the field will not make, such as low-owned players, unpopular teams or an unusual salary structure.Pick one or two contrarian spots per lineup and ground each in a real reason. The rest of the roster can look like the field.Read the full definition of Contrarian. If you have anything else to add about that, go ahead. Otherwise, let's bring in the captain talk. Three guys projected over a ten percent. Josh in a tier of his own, twenty-five. James Cook, fifteen. Justin Jefferson, twelve. Everyone else below ten percent. What do you plan on doing?

9:17

A very tough plate for captain, I guess, to kind of make a case for some of the other guys outside of those three, because they're clearly the three most popular. They're going to be the three most popular. There's no one that's going to steam up and contest with these guys in terms of OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership. Josh Allen, absolutely. And I do think it's going to probably be held in check a little bit because of the lack of value.

9:43

To me, twenty five percent Josh Allen captain is him being held in check, especially on this SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate. So, you know, pride comes to no one's surprise. I want to be overweight. Josh Allen in the captain. And I would be willing to risk some of these cheaper value options in order to make that happen. If if I need need to. I just talked about the formula, I think, to beat the Vikings that the Lions kind of laid out last week.

10:08

I think that they're going to kind of implement that sort of formula. So I think we're going to see a lot of Josh Allen. And James Cook on the ground. So I need to have James Cook up there as well. We're showing a fifteen percent ownership. That's probably where it's at. I mean, I'm not the biggest James Cook guy generally on main slates, but it's a Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown slate.

10:29

I think their game plan is going to include him a lot because of what we saw last week. So I just have to be there and I don't I'm not going to go crazy. I'll probably be right around James Cook or maybe a little bit under and I'm good with it, but I do like him up top. And then the clear guy on Minnesota, the guy that benefits the most from Carlson Wentz coming in and Kyler's ass going to the bench is definitely Justin Jefferson.

10:54

And there's been quotes about one saying he wants to get involved, of course, and it's a good matchup against the Bills. And they could potentially be playing from behind. Yeah, I mean, he's recently emphasized passing it to Jefferson is all you have to do. Agreed. He's going to do a much better job of getting the ball to Jefferson than Kyler Murray. I mean, Kyler Murray was an absolute disaster. And I watched a lot of the Vikings so far this year. He never goes with his first read.

11:21

So then it immediately turns into like a scramble. He'll look.

11:24

Doesn't pull the doesn't pull the trigger and then it's some sort of frantic scramble when you got a guy like Jefferson and he's the first read just give him a chance and Kyler Murray incapable of doing it carson once is going to do it today so Jefferson for sure I want a lot of and I do want overweight on Jefferson so I'm looking at allen overweight Jefferson overweight cook I'm fine probably being right around the field.

11:48

And then we say, okay, let's make a case for some of these other guys. I think Hawkinson's interesting. He's come off a couple of big games. I imagine Wentz will use him. I mean, Wentz is very good at getting these guys involved. So I'm good with maybe some Hawkins and then even some Jordan Addison as well. Like if it's not Justin Jefferson today, it could definitely be Addison. So I think I like Addison more than Hawkins when comparing those two.

12:14

You go to the Bills side, who else outside of James Cook, Josh Allen? That's where I have a little bit more difficulty because I really think that they keep the ball on the ground. I think they do their damage on the ground. The clear other guy to consider would be DJ Moore. Probably have some of him, but I'm not going to go crazy with DJ Moore. So those next three guys that I included, I'm going to rank them Addison, Hawkins, and then DJ Moore.

12:39

I'm not going to mess with Wentz up top. I think you can make the case for him, though, because there is a path where he does spread it out. He can go to Jefferson. He can go to Addison. He can go to Hawkins. And Aaron Jones can catch passes in the backfield, too. So there's a lot of different guys he could potentially throw the ball to. I don't love it.

12:58

Sticking with those top three that we talked about, and then those secondary guys, Addison, Hawkins, DJ Moore, in that order. Yeah, I'm very similar to you. Like the Justin Jefferson stuff makes a lot of sense. His receiving prop about seventy nine, which is solid. I think it's totally fine. I think he's plus one fifteen. Let me get exactly plus one thirty five to score. Only two ones favored to score Josh Allen minus one twenty five.

13:23

And that's on the ground, which just shows how much how elite of a play he is. James Cook minus one ten. And I was surprised to see his rushing prop sitting at eighty nine and a half yards. That's a big boy number. That's a big number. That's a huge number. That makes me feel better, even better about him. Me too. I was thinking the same thing. I did not expect it to be that big.

13:43

And at $10,400, like fifteen percent, his ownership is going to stay in check to an extent with only or with Josh Allen, only $1,000 more and then no one else priced above $10,000. So I could see or James Cook coming back a little bit in ownership. And I definitely like it a lot. Also leverages some Josh Allen stuff. If James Cook fully nukes, that probably means Josh Allen isn't getting QB sneaks.

14:05

Outside of those three, since I will be ChalkChalk is the most popular, highly owned play on a slate. The term comes from sports betting, where the favorite is called the chalk.Don't label chalk good or bad. Ask whether each popular play deserves its ownership, then decide which chalk you'll eat and which you'll fade.Read the full definition of Chalk at captain and trying to get different elsewhere, I am good with Carlson Wentz for all the reasons you said. There's no Jawan Jennings. We'll talk about it more when we get to wide receiver. Is it Mills Price? Is it Ty Felton? Is it Odell Beckham? Who knows who's going to run as the wide receiver three this week, but it does make it a little more intriguing. Aaron Jones can catch passes. Jefferson, Addison, Hawkins.

14:31

I once could throw it to three touchdowns of three different guys. So at $9,000 I'm going to play some once that captain and the Game ScriptGame script is how a game's score and time remaining influence its pace, play choices and player opportunities. In football, teams protecting a lead often run more, while teams chasing a deficit often pass more.Before locking a lineup, ask who keeps playing if your expected script reverses. Check passing-down roles and backup rotations instead of assuming a team's leading rusher handles every situation.Read the full definition of Game Script should be good with them as three and a half point dogs. I think my next favorite after that is Khalil Shakir. And it mainly just comes down to. Looking at the ownership of these secondary guys, DJ Moore, six point eight. We have Hawkins, seven point nine. Addison, four point three. Shakir, three point one. Kincaid's even a little higher.

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So of guys that are going to be on the field looking at the receiving props, Moore is like forty eight and a half. Shakir's forty two and a half. Kincaid's forty and a half. Just give me the lowest owned of that bunch. Shakir almost got a touchdown last week as well, like stepped out at the one yard line. $7,200 three percent ownership, twenty percent Flex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL.

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It's almost like you're Spending UpSpending up means choosing a higher-priced player over a cheaper alternative, using more of your lineup's salary budget at that spot. You may also hear it called paying up.Build a version with your preferred expensive player and another without. Before choosing, check whether either version relies on a cheap player whose expected role still depends on unresolved injury news.Read the full definition of Spending Up a little bit to be ContrarianA contrarian play or lineup is one built around choices most of the field will not make, such as low-owned players, unpopular teams or an unusual salary structure.Pick one or two contrarian spots per lineup and ground each in a real reason. The rest of the roster can look like the field.Read the full definition of Contrarian, but he'd be the one if I had to choose after Josh Allen, Jefferson, James Cook, it'd be Wentz and Shakir for me. If you're playing a bunch of teams, of course, I'd mix in a little DJ more, a little Hawkins. What do you think if like kickers or defenses? What do you think about that on a slate like this?

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So you really need, you know, we always talk about it and you really need the kickers, obviously they have a big game, but then you need like four or five, probably four other higher price guys to have, middling performances you're going to need probably Josh Allen to stay under thirty you're going to need Justin Jefferson to probably be around twenty carson wants to be around eighteen to twenty um you know could it happen on this slate I mean these kickers when we talk about when we get to them they've had some monster performances and you know the Vikings for sure I mean there's Not many teams in the NFL that are willing just to take the field goal.

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The Vikings are one that will. So if you are doing it, I think I prefer Riker. We'll talk about it when we get there. I don't hate doing it on the slate just because I think there is big upside at the kicker position. And it's not anything where you go crazy and play ten percent kicker. But if you get, you know, a little bit single digits like it's way over the field. And I do think there's a path tonight where it could potentially hit.

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Yeah, I don't hate it either, mainly because also TJ Hawkins is going to get so much in that range. They've shown seven times the ownership of any kicker or defense at captain. And Hawkins is more expensive than all four of those as well. So I do prefer if you were to go try and mid-tier build, trying to go completely off the board would probably be one of the two kickers for me over Hawkins.

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TJ Hawkins is a way to get different, but mainly I'm probably going to eat the chalk. Josh Allen, James Cook, Justin Jefferson, and then some Wentz, some Shakir, but try and get different at the flex spot. And let's just talk quarterbacks in the flex. It's not too much changes. I do think I'll be more overweight. Carson Wentz in the flex, probably under on Josh a little bit. I'll be over captain under flex.

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I'm still going to get a lot in both though, but yeah, I guess you could always make a rule to have Josh in every single team. That won't get you different, but enough people won't have that, that you can say it's paying the RakeRake is the share of entry fees the site keeps as its fee instead of paying it out as prizes. It is the gap between total entry fees and the total prize pool.Compare rake between contests you would enter anyway. A slightly higher rake can be worth it in a softer field, but when the fields look similar, take the contest that keeps less.Read the full definition of Rake. With that being said, the moment Josh isn't in the captain, you're looking at a lot, or isn't on optimal flex or captain, you're looking at a lot Duplicate LineupsDuplicate lineups are entries in the same DFS contest with identical player selections and scoring assignments, including any multiplier positions. In standard cash-prize tournaments, these entries tie and share the combined prizes for the places they occupy.Use the actual prize table to calculate your payout in a first-place tie with two, five or ten entries. Compare those outcomes before choosing between similarly strong builds.Read the full definition of Duplicate Lineups and getting paid handsomely. Do you ever mess with that?

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Any thoughts at the flex for quarterbacks? Yeah, I mean, I definitely like once a lot in that in that in the Flex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL for sure tonight. I mean, just seems like a very stable and like the OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership if it is true. I actually think this one will come up a little bit like we're showing thirty three percent once I think it's going to be higher than that. You know, he's not just some shitty backup quarterback. Like he's had success in this league.

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He has weapons. So I think it is higher than thirty three. But I do. I definitely like him in the flex. I want him. I think he's very high FloorIn daily fantasy sports (DFS), a player's floor is an estimate of the low end of their realistic fantasy scoring range. It describes downside, not a guaranteed minimum or their average projected score.Before trusting a floor estimate, check what could change the player's role today: a returning teammate, a minutes restriction, a lineup change or a different game script.Read the full definition of Floor play tonight. It's a good matchup, too, against Buffalo. But I don't want it to come at the cost of any Josh Allen, I guess, if deciding between. But I get your point. Any Josh Allen faded lineup is going to make way more money if it gets there than any Josh Allen lineup.

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So I get the point there for sure. I mean, Optimal LineupAn optimal lineup is a legal roster that maximizes fantasy points under the salary cap and roster rules. After games, it uses actual scores; before games, a projected optimal uses estimated scores and any lineup restrictions you set.When reviewing an optimal, replace its most surprising scorer with a realistic pregame alternative. Check whether the remaining construction still offered a credible path to winning your contest.Read the full definition of Optimal Lineup rate is through the roof on Josh Allen. But Wentz overall in that flex spot, I love Wentz there for sure. As much as I can get, I'm going to get. Absolutely. I'm in agreement there. More Wentz, Flex for me, probably a little under on Josh. I wouldn't make the rule, but most of the time, Josh Allen will be in the winner, obviously.

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DJ Dallas got in the mix a little bit as well. Not sure how much interest you have there, but mainly Jordan Mason, Aaron Jones, but a little rotation of a third. And the same can be said about the Bills. It's James Cook. It's Ty Johnson on passing downs. But Ray Davis also mixes in. In some base work occasionally. Again, I don't think Ray Davis, DJ Dallas, a play for most watching here.

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If you're playing one fifty, you can see their two percent OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership, but still four guys. If you exclude those two to talk about. Yeah. So the Minnesota side, Jordan Mason back and it's probably going to be somewhere pretty close. Pretty close to fifty fifty sort of split, you know, give or take like ten percentage points and for me it just I don't really like either of them. If you're playing one fifty, obviously you're going to get exposure.

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I prefer the passing attack for Minnesota way more than the running game for Minnesota tonight. They have Wentz in there for a reason. I think they're going to be looking to pass the ball and get this offense going. I think the Bills win this game, so I think they're playing from behind. So for me personally, not a ton of interest, but if I did have interest, I would be playing Aaron Jones over Jordan Mason. And I think, you know, Mason is what?

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A six hundred dollars less than Jones. I think a lot of people are going to take that discount. I'll just flip it and play more. I would I would flip it if I'm interested in these guys and play more Jones. Then Mason, and it kind of fits to what I'm thinking, where if they are playing from behind Jones, it's probably going to be out there over Mason. So that's my stance there on those guys. You know, DJ Dallas, we're starving for value.

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You know, if I was building a ton of teams, I would keep them in, but, you know, cap it.

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Uh definitely prefer the the bill side for on the uh in regards to the running backs here James Cook already talked about him in the flock in the captain phenomenal play I think he's great play Flex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL but my favorite running back play I think by far Ty Johnson and like he's one of these guys that like these elite quarterbacks have their guys that they want on the on the field and like Josh Allen wants Ty Johnson out there and when he's out there he gets used he's only $3,400 He, let's see, three targets, two targets, four targets, two targets, four targets.

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Crazy thing is, Every single target he has this year has been converted to a catch. Every single one all season, which is pretty wild. Four for four, two for two, four for four, two for two, three for three. He has a big playoff side. I love Ty Johnson today. Showing ten percent ownership, it's going to probably stay right in that range. I'd be fine. I'd probably want to be like double Ty Johnson today. So love him. But, yeah, that's pretty much it.

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I mean, James Cook, Ty Johnson in a tier of their own. Aaron Jones and then Mason for me in the next year. And then if I get some DJ Dallas or Ray Davis, I'd be fine because I know I'm going to have to take on some of these plays being overweight. Josh Allen captain. Yeah. And I will say I prefer Ray Davis for sure to DJ Dallas. Like Ray Davis at least has been on the team.

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I mean, for years now, seventeen snaps last game, nine in week six, ten the week prior. So he's out there a little bit more. DJ Dallas did play seventeen last game, six the game prior, though usually is in the single digits. So it would be right over Dallas if choosing one of them. I think your point about Aaron Jones and Mason was very good.

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If you think that the Vikings win this game and play with the lead most of the time, I would expect more Jordan Mason props to reflect that like forty eight and a half rushing prop for Jordan Mason sitting at like thirty one and a half for Aaron Jones. Touchdowns also do favor Jordan Mason plus two twenty five versus plus two ninety. But But if they're trailing by fourteen, you will see more Aaron Jones out there in passing work stuff.

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So how you build your teams with Mason and Aaron Jones should look a little different. I think Ty Johnson teams, when you do play him, probably work better with Jordan Mason in that own team, because then you're saying Jordan or Ty Johnson out there because they're trailing more. They're playing from behind and Jordan Mason's on the other side's running it more so. Totally in agreement with Ty Johnson. Probably my favorite at cost and ownership would be Ty Johnson in the flex.

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I think a little more Jordan Mason love if I had to pick Mason or Jones. I think I'm on Mason mainly for props and he's cheaper, but ownership will also reflect that. James Cook, I like him. I mean, I prefer him more at captain than I do flex, I think. But seeing that eighty nine and a half rushing prop in favor to score, I think I want quite a bit of James Cook at both. That's all I got there.

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Let's move on to the wide receiver position. Again, Joshua Palmer and Juwan Jennings, wide receiver four for the Bills and Joshua Palmer, wide receiver three and Juwan Jennings for the Vikings, both out today. So after you get the DJ Moore, Shakir Coleman, Jefferson Addison, you're going to Skylar Bell, two hundred dollars, OBJ, two hundred dollars, Ty Felton, $1,000, Miles Price, twelve hundred. Craig Dortch, eighteen hundred. I'm just reading him off based on the stone.

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It's not props aren't really helping us out too much and what's going to happen. So if you have any takes on who's going to serve as the wide receiver three for the Vikings, wide receiver four for the Bills. Yeah, it's definitely difficult.

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I mean, so, you know, on the Minnesota side, like if you're, you know, we talked about a lot with these past catchers, like if you're playing, you know, the Carlson Wentz captain teams, that's where I'd be more prone to take chances on these fringe Minnesota guys. I mean, based on... Kind of everyone has it as miles price, but it's not like it's a huge ProjectionsDFS projections estimate a player's fantasy points for an upcoming slate using expected opportunities, performance and the contest's scoring rules. They describe an expected result, not a guaranteed score.Check the projection's update time and assumed role before using it. If news is already included, adjusting again for that same news can double-count its effect.Read the full definition of Projections. I mean, we're showing a two point two. I just looked at another site, two point three.

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So they it's going to be a small role. They're going to be the fourth or maybe even fifth option if they're on the field, most Likely. So, you know, better suited for those. Wentz captain's teams, I would say. Outside of that, it's tough. Or, I mean, or, again, if you're playing a lot of Josh Allen captain, you're going to have to take on some of this value. So I'd be fine playing him in those sort of teams. But, you know, definitely cap what you get there.

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On the Buffalo side, you know, Skyler Bell at . You know, they've been talking about this guy for a while and he gets on the field. And, you know, if you're playing, you know, Josh Allen captain teams or a lot of them, which, you know, I am and the field didn't be playing him at a high rate. I do like getting Skylar Bell in there at two hundred.

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And, you know, I do see the path where this is a SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate where a two hundred dollar zero is could work potentially so that's another out that you have if you're playing skylar bell uh the projection again pretty similar like two point three um other site has it at like two so it's like you know he's right in that range but two hundred bucks makes a lot work so all these fringe Wide receiver three guys are definitely better for their corresponding quarterback-Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown.

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We already talked about Jefferson. Phenomenal play. I think Addison is a really good play on the slate as well. I like both of them. They're probably, for me, wide receiver one and two on the slate. Then on the Buffalo side, DJ Moore. Fine. Shakir, I like as well. And then Keon Coleman. I mean, Keon Coleman has been solid this year, and he's gaining the trust of Josh Allen as the season goes on.

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It's kind of like a weird price at $5,800, but I like him quite a bit. But, you know, in terms of the payups of this position, I prefer the Minnesota guys over the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, Keon Coleman probably is my favorite receiver at OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership and the whole wide receiver room like $5,800, I guess, is a little expensive, especially when people see TJ Hawkins, who's I mean, our projection right here has him for like five clear. To Coleman for four hundred less.

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So it leverages off that TJ Hawkins ownership and then people are going to go kickers or defenses. Last week, Keon Coleman led the wide receiver room in snaps. I know it was DJ Moore's first game back, but Keon playing the outside, like in week six with no DJ Moore, Keon out-snapped Shakir, out-snapped him by one in week five, one in week four. Keon Coleman been out there a bunch, and Josh Allen definitely trusts him this year.

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So at $5,800, ten percent ownership. I am struggling to find ways to get different on this slate. Keon Coleman definitely won. Already mentioned I'm Shakir over DJ Moore. A lot of that just has to do with he's six hundred less. Again, we have three points different in projection. That ownership, ten percent less at the flex and cheaper. It's another way I can get different on a chalkier slate. And on Skyler Bell, yeah, two hundred, like Hoop said, zero could be enough.

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If he does get one catch for one point, two points, two points, I'd be fine with that. So I like the Buffalo receiving room. I'd say DJ more my least favorite. Still fine with it. Better off in Josh Allen captains and stuff. Vikings, it's Jefferson I like quite a bit. Addison's fine. And then Philly Phantom, our guy, hope you're doing well, said, tell me these guys are not playable. Most people watching this show probably playing twenty teams or less. You don't have to play any of them.

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You can easily hit the X out button. All of them can get an easy zero and no one's going to be surprised. With that said, I would definitely make a rule. Max one price felt in the OBJ. Most of your lineups will do that, but they're going to, especially if they are trailing in this game. These guys are going to be out there. They're not just going to hammer twelve personnel all day and just play two wide receivers.

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Some of these guys are going to rotate in. So when I'm looking at four percent, two percent, one percent, to be honest, in larger field stuff, I'll take the opposite approach. You can get overweight in all of them. Double the field, one point five X. You're still not having that much of your portfolio on them. And then you're just hoping one of them hit. Again, I don't want to play two together. I don't know who is it. Who's it going to be?

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Our mandala bill says Felton price. Looking at it, what, in week two when Price was there and there was no Jawan Jennings, Price played fifty percent of the snaps. OBJ is now just into the consideration now and he's activated. How is he going to look? I mean, to be honest, if I'm the Vikings, I'm rolling out OBJ probably over Price and Felton because I think I have a little more something there. Any thoughts if you had to take a chance on him, how you'd rank him?

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Yeah, I mean, I guess the one thing for sure is like, you know, tell me these guys aren't playable. Like if you're hand building teams and you're not playing one fifty, do not feel obligated to play these guys like definitely just get rid of them. Don't do it. It's very unlikely for any of these guys to be on the Optimal LineupAn optimal lineup is a legal roster that maximizes fantasy points under the salary cap and roster rules. After games, it uses actual scores; before games, a projected optimal uses estimated scores and any lineup restrictions you set.When reviewing an optimal, replace its most surprising scorer with a realistic pregame alternative. Check whether the remaining construction still offered a credible path to winning your contest.Read the full definition of Optimal Lineup tonight. I think they're definitely more if you're building, you know, fifty lineups or above. I have.

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Honestly, no strong lean like whatsoever in terms of which of these guys are the guys. But I like playing them.

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Roster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Read the full definition of Roster Construction wise if you're playing the carson once teams like I'd include these guys if you're playing the Josh Allen captain teams I'd include the corresponding guys to make it all work but you know it is not these guys are not mandatory plays by any means you can do things differently you can go to a more middling sort of build instead of starting with Josh Allen captain and then once and then Justin Jefferson then you're like oh I got to play one of these cheap guys like if you don't feel comfortable just go to something else For sure.

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And again, most people will do that. People want to avoid this uncertainty because I have James Cook, Josh Allen, Jefferson. I'm jamming Chuck Kafton. I need value. I'm just going to find myself playing these guys because I think someone's going to be on the field. If we knew who it would be more, to be honest, I'm going to play all three and I'm going to hope they don't rotate. I'm going to hope one of them just gets sixty percent. If I'm overweight on all of them.

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Sure. A couple of teams are dead and that. But those other teams are going to look really good. To the field. So that's the way I'm going to approach it as a way to get different. But I, I mean, they could still be out there and once not look at them once that's also in the realm of possibilities. They're showing that low ownership for a reason though. Yeah. I rank them. Oh, you're, you're throwing Kincaid in that one.

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I still think I'd probably be Shakir, myself, and then Kincaid, and then DJ Moore. And mainly it just comes down to looking at ownership. Shakir's the lowest, then Kincaid, then DJ Moore. Looking at pricing, Shakir cheapest, then Kincaid, then DJ Moore. But that's the only reason there. No I know football take or something. You have one – Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It does seem like a toss-up for sure. I mean, I'll go Kincaid, Moore, Shakir.

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It might have been opposite of what you said, but it's like it's so close. I mean, it's super close with these guys. And now that he posed that question, this almost seems like the first time that Josh Allen has had all these guys, or maybe not the first time, but it hasn't been frequently this season where all those guys have been out there and playing. So, I mean, it's probably definitely a boost overall for Josh. Yeah, it's been a little bit.

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First couple weeks and then last week was the first one in a bit since DJ's been... Yeah, I forgot, Dollar Bill, that you're a Vikings fan. So is this from Vikings Talk Radio or whatever? Or is this just what you've seen, what you're guessing? Give us a little more insight, because this could be a big part of the slate. And the last thing is, I also, before the game, look at when they're warming up, who's running with the ones out there?

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When they have three receivers out there, is it Felton getting the first look? I know Rio last year in a Philly slate, Covey, I believe it was, or something, there was unknowns. Like, this guy's running with the ones. All right, well, that's all I need to see, so... Danny, another Vikings fan. He's definitely a Vikings guy because he comes in here and he's got like an alarm that goes off when Hoops starts talking shit about the Vikings and he comes in here.

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But rightfully so because he was on the Vikings week one of last season and I was shitting on him. He goes, no, the Vikings are going to be good. They've been pretty good ever since. So I definitely got to give my boy Danny some credit there. Yeah, in the one week in week four. Week three, Jefferson got hurt. Felton then played for that. Week four, Jefferson did not play, and Felton got majority of those snaps.

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But it is a little different now with Jawan Jennings instead of Jefferson. I don't know if they view a one-v-one replacement. Maybe they do. Also, OBJ wasn't on the team at that time. All right, let's move on to the tight end position. I think relatively, I don't know, relatively deep is not the right word, but Kincaid and Dawson Knox, anytime, it's a Bill Slade. Both of them are talked about. They also mix in some Jackson Hawes as a blocking tight end.

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On the other side, for the Vikings, it's definitely TJ Hawkins, but this Ben Yorsick guy, uh, forty-three percent of snaps last week, fifty-one the week prior, and then the week before the bye, fifty-five percent. Hawkinson did get injured in that game, but The last two games, Hawkinson's played. Your OSEC has been out there a little bit. So, yeah, break down this position. Yeah, I actually like Uros quite a bit. I mean, out of all the cheap pass catchers, I think he's by far my favorite.

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I mean, he's sliding into the Josh Oliver role, and Josh Oliver was a legitimate part of their offense. So, you know, this guy slides in. He had a twenty four yard catch last time. You know, it's not a guess in terms of is he going to be out there? Is he not? He's going to be out there. Those wide receivers. It's kind of a guess. You know, I think we've kind of. Our Vikings sources have pushed us towards Ty Felton, which I probably agree with.

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I'm going to trust these guys for sure. Yeah. And now now more should be the guy. But yeah. So, I mean, it is still a little bit of a guess, but I know for sure Eurosex is going to be out there. And he's getting like no OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership whatsoever, by far my favorite cheap option in terms of the Minnesota pass catchers.

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Just think about how many times in the past you played, whether it's Hawkins or whoever the tight end one was for Minnesota, and then Josh Oliver ass comes in there and gets all the action. So I have that in my head. That's why I like him. And then that's kind of the same reason you play Dawson Knox, because he's going to be on the field. If you're going to be heavy Kincaid or heavy Josh Allen captain, Knox is out there, and Knox is going to have the opportunity.

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So I like him as well. And then I like the studs. I guess I shouldn't say studs, but I like the main guys, TJ Hawkins and Kincaid. Hawkinson will get more ownership. Like, Hawkinson's going to get a lot of ownership on this site because of the price tag. $5,400. We don't have a ton of value. Like, he's going to get propped up for that reason. I'm good with him. I'm definitely good with Kincaid.

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I still believe, you know, it's probably – I mean really I mean he is a wide receiver in this offense like he's he's used in that way so I think $7,400's a little awkward of a price um you know no high ownership or anything on him but yeah I mean I think you were kind of right you're gonna say it's a loaded or deep position I'm viewing it that way um the field's not because Dawson Knox is coming in at what, five percent and Eurosex coming in at two and a half percent.

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But I think both of those guys are very viable options tonight. Yeah, I agree. I will say Eurosec and Knox both decent bit more expensive than like a Ty Felton or OBJ. And if you do get like the guy playing fifty percent of snaps as a wide receiver three for the Vikings, I would take whoever that is all day over either Knox or Eurosec. I mean, Knox, I'm naturally going to be overweight. He outsnaps Kincaid a decent amount. But that dude is his.

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Cardio is all can be like look at his box score it is it's terrible now it's Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown it's one game and he's out on the field so I'm naturally gonna play him but I'm yeah I'm probably gonna be like double the field and get absolutely nothing for it because that's what he usually does Eurosec He's like the fifth option. With all that being said, though, like, yeah, it's now Wentz instead of Kyler. So who knows? I mean, we expect Wentz to pepper Jefferson.

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He's saying that earlier or he's saying that early. But what if that read is gone? What if the Bills make sure to take that away? You don't know how he's going to look at Hawkins or Addison or that wide receiver three or Eurosec. So embrace maybe some of the. The Vikings cheaper pass catchers. They are not even sure we'll be out there much, but we'll be really LeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Read the full definition of Leverage. I think Hawkins is my least favorite just because he's, I wouldn't be surprised right now.

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We're showing thirty seven flex. He comes in like forty five. It's just such an easy click. Everyone's good. Everyone's going to land there. So I just think naturally I'm going to hope. I'm going to get underweight and hope that it fails. Fine with Kincaid, even though the snaps have been down when he's out there. He's definitely efficient, has big play upside, so nothing bad to say. Hawes, again, more than Likely he's getting you zero.

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So most people watching this show not playing one fifty to play any Jackson Hawes. I'd rank him Knox, Kincaid, you're a sick Hawkins at at ownership and cost. All right, kickers and go ahead. No, I would say that's fair. I don't mind that ranking. Yeah, if you think Hockenson comes back or even – it's like just thirty-five percent. No, there's no way. Yeah, it's got to be where it's at or even higher. I mean, there's no way it's coming back down. Yeah, I agree.

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Kickers and defense, we talked about that. All of them, both kickers projecting over twenty percent. Bill's defense, eighteen. Vikings, nine.

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And I would not be surprised to see like twelve percent Vikings, twenty – three percent Bills and then yeah Reichard and Reichard pushing thirty and Bass pushing twenty five again it really comes down to the value is terrible everyone knows that Hawkins and these four right here they all have chances to get points and they all fit when you are playing Josh Allen James Cook Jefferson whatever captain builds so yeah any thoughts on them and then how would you compare them to TJ Hawkins in that similar range yeah I mean he was kind of right there I mean That is the nice part about these kickers.

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I mean, he's priced right in that range, and he's going to have probably not full-on double, but he's going to have close to double the OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership of these guys. And, man, these kickers are two that have massive upside. I mean, I kind of alluded to it earlier how I like Reichard, this offense, even with Wentz in there. Like, if they have the opportunity to take points, they're probably going to take it.

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Reichert has – A ten, sixteen, nineteen, sixteen, thirteen, and then terrible game last game against the Lions. But massive upside. Bass, his last three games, thirteen, seventeen, sixteen, and he hasn't missed a field goal all year, which is pretty impressive. I heard a lot of sixteen, seventeen. That could be optimal on this SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate for sure. Even if Josh did at twenty-nine. Exactly. If Hawkins and defenses and... These other $2,000 like if they're not doing anything, you could find a middle and build.

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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, they have the upside. I mean, Bass has – yeah, Bass has not missed a field goal all year. Some of these guys are missing consistently. So, love the kickers. And there's – I mean, that's the one thing with, like, you talk about Hawkins, it could go up to, like, forty percent. You never have to worry about that with kickers. There's no way these guys are going anywhere crazy in terms of the ownership.

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I think the upside, massive in a dome as well, which is a nice little boost. So, in on both of these for sure. Defenses, I prefer – the Bills over the Vikings because I think the Bills are going to win this game. And I mean, that doesn't necessarily mean that they'll outscore them defensively, but that's the sort of build I'm going with Bills winning the game. And I'm going to let just take their defense and they're about four hundred dollars more expensive.

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They are getting more ownership, though, because a lot of people and I think They're looking at the spread. The Bills are favored by three. But yeah, I just prefer the Bills over. And a Josh Allen-led offense, it's really tough for defenses to – I mean, he will make some mistakes. But if I think they're just going to run the ball a ton, I just can't play a ton of the Vikings defense. So that's kind of where I'm at. Yeah, it's fair. I'll probably be over.

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I mean, Brian Flores blitzes almost every play. Random stuff can happen. So I'm definitely going to play, probably be overweight, especially if they're nine percent. Bills probably will be a little overweight them. Yeah, I don't. This Vikings offense, if you take away Jefferson, I don't think they're going to have much success running the ball. It could be bad for Carlson Wentz. So I like both defenses. And then I just see one kickers, four hundred less and less ownership. So I'll say Bass over Riker.

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But I think both. Are solid, and I like both, all of them, more than TJ Hawkins when looking at ownership and pricing. All right, let's go to FanDuel, looking at Josh Allen. I mean, shout out to FanDuel. They did it right, pricing him way, way above the rest. Still going to get a lot of ownership, but you at least have a decision at MVP and even Flex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL.

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It's not going to be as high as it could be if they price him at, like, twelve point $8,000 or twelve point $5,000. Another thing that stood out, Jason Jordan Mason was cheaper on DraftKings, much more expensive than Aaron Jones on FanDuel. Fourteen hundred more there. So different pricing in terms of that.

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And then TJ Hawkins less or less, not less own, definitely not less own, less expensive than the kickers and the defenses, which will lead to him being pretty highly owned. Keon Coleman also looks to be relatively cheap. Anything else you're seeing? Yes, I mean some tougher prices like DJ more. $10,000 I mean that's that's up there. Just eight hundred dollars cheaper than Wentz. That's a big boy price tag. Even like Shakir obviously better suited for DK scoring.

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$8,600 for Shakir where you know he's usually not really a touchdown guy. That's a tough one. Can Coleman though at fifty two. I think same thing applies over here that we talked about on DK. We both liked him on DK and I'm going to like him here. For sure. Ty Johnson, a little more expensive on FanDuel. His game definitely fits DK scoring better, $4,800. So not as appealing. I mean, I'll still play him, but definitely not as appealing.

45:39

Ray Davis, $4,400. That's a that's a tough click. But are you Euro sick guy? Sixteen hundred. I mean, one touchdown on FanDuel, probably enough. Then you have those other guys price. Where's Ty Felt? Ty Felt in eighteen hundred. Yeah, so I'm probably more prone to playing these cheap guys over on FanDuel where Ty Johnson isn't as appealing. Ray Davis is not as appealing. Some of these prices are a little more elevated.

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So I think I actually like these cheap cheapies a little bit better on FanDuel than DK. And then again, it's like with the scoring one play, one touchdown.

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Is enough we're on DK sometimes you need a little bit more than that with the full ppr so yeah just some thoughts of FanDuel yeah Skyler Bell min price $1,000

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Obj twelve hundred miles price twelve hundred the more that we talk through the show and listen to some of the Vikings guy feels like miles price would be my least favorite he is going to get a little bit of ownership and if you guys think Felton's already there I think obj has the biggest chance to be wide receiver three I guess maybe not named Felton just because he wasn't in the situation when juwan or Jefferson didn't play last time and stuff where Felton and price were so I think it's either Felton obj and then probably going to be way under or completely be off miles price trust in the chat right there yeah you mentioned uh euro sec

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Felton, and yeah, you can leave a couple hundred or even one or $2,000, like DJ Dallas, Jackson Hawes, Greg Dortch. Those are all some names priced above Eurosex, Felton, OBJs, Skyler Bills on FanDuel, and all of them very much have zero in their range of outcomes. So I think a relatively similar SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate, FanDuel, two DraftKings, still going to see the big names like Josh at captain, the Hawkinsons, kickers, defenses, more middling stuff to try and avoid full, full punts.

47:33

Always fun talking some football with you hoop. And we got a good one on Monday night, not the biggest total, but two teams that could very well be there when it comes down to the end of it. And $500,000 up top always makes it more fun for DFS as well. So any final thoughts before we get on out of here? No, I've had a good week of football so far, and I'm excited for this one, just even from a viewing standpoint.

47:55

Vikings-Bills should be a good one, too. What, six-and-one teams? Close spread. Josh Allen's just always fun to watch. I love watching Josh Allen play football, so looking forward to it. And then, yeah, let's finish off the week strong, and then we roll right into week ten next week and start it all over again. Absolutely. Best time of the year. Again, we would love to have you get over to Shippenation.com. See plans and pricing like we showed off earlier in the show.

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You can get everything, whether it's single sport, just content, all access to play all the different sports. NBA has a solid SlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate today. And yeah, definitely hit that like and subscribe on the way out. It helps us out a ton. If it hasn't been a good week nine for you, hopefully tonight changes it. And if it has, hopefully you parlay that into tonight. Good luck, everybody. Appreciate your support for who I'm title town. Good luck. Be safe. Peace.

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  7. 26:14Wide Receivers and Cheap Punt Options
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