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Buccaneers vs Cowboys – TNF Showdown Shippers | NFL Week 5 | DFS Picks, Plays & Process

Aired Thu Oct 8, 2026 Hosts Mike Petta, Tyler Tamboline, & Zach Trivett Runtime 1:09:12 Chapters 13 Views 4,024

From the archive. This breakdown is for the Thursday, October 8 NFL slate. Salaries, weather and picks were for that day.

The Short Version

Mike Petta, Tyler Tamboline, and Zach Trivett break down Tampa Bay at Dallas, favoring five-one and four-two Cowboys builds. CeeDee Lamb ($11,800) is a preferred captain alongside Javonte Williams, while George Pickens offers a way around Lamb's heavier ownership. Dak Prescott is central to the flex builds, with Williams captain lineups the main exception. The approach is to leave salary and change the supporting pieces rather than force Tampa captains.

Cade Otton ($4,400) is the preferred Tampa value, with receiving props similar to the more expensive receivers. Jalon Daniels is more appealing in flex because rushing and garbage time can carry him. Ryan Flournoy, Tez Johnson, Ted Hurst, and KaVontae Turpin supply receiver savings. Sean Tucker and Tyler Goodson are cheap running back options, although Goodson draws mixed views. Cowboys DST and Brandon Aubrey are favored, while Bucky Irving and the expensive Tampa receivers draw substantial resistance.

Plays Mentioned

PlayCallThe TakeAt
CAPTAIN A low-owned captain to mix in because he plays extensively in three-receiver sets and a big game could come at the expense of the more popular Dallas receivers. 8:36
CAPTAIN An appealing captain at lower ownership than CeeDee Lamb, with a path to taking the receiving production that the field expects Lamb to deliver. 9:58
CAPTAIN A preferred captain with plans to exceed the field because his connection with Dak Prescott has been producing consistently. 12:58
CAPTAIN A preferred captain with interest in roughly 20% exposure against an ownership estimate around 12%. 14:01
CAPTAIN Kept in the captain mix by part of the show, although others preferred the cheaper Ryan Flournoy and a more condensed captain pool. 14:19
CAPTAIN A captain option with mixed exposure preferences: some wanted roughly field ownership or slightly less, while others liked him more because production could spread among his receivers. 17:51
CORE Liked in flex at $8,600 because rushing and four quarters of playing time provide several ways to score even if Tampa trails heavily and his passing is poor. 18:44
CORE Expected to be needed in most builds, with Javonte Williams captain lineups the main scenario where leaving him out of flex felt comfortable. 22:12
VALUE Liked as a $2,400 punt because he scored the previous week and coaches discussed increasing his involvement, including as the lone Buccaneer in Dallas-heavy builds. 25:53
VALUE A $2,000 backup with a blowout path to late carries, but views were split because Dallas may continue riding its starters even with a large lead. 26:18
CORE The clear favorite running back and a strong flex play, with the other backs largely serving as salary-saving options. 30:56
VALUE Preferred to Bucky Irving at $4,000 for the savings and possible dump-offs, although the show questioned whether his role with a running quarterback was sufficient. 31:43
An underweight option at $8,400, with cheaper Tampa backs preferred and discussion of reducing exposure rather than treating him as an unconditional slate-wide fade. 33:41
LEVERAGE More interesting than Ted Hurst at lower ownership after outsnapping him 35 to 25 in the previous game, while also providing needed salary savings. 39:56
CORE A Dallas receiver to build with, including alongside Ryan Flournoy in Dak Prescott captain lineups that leave salary rather than upgrade automatically to CeeDee Lamb. 42:50
CORE One of the Dallas studs to prioritize, although Dak Prescott captain builds can leave him out for George Pickens and Ryan Flournoy instead of spending the remaining salary automatically. 43:47
Strongly discouraged at his salary, although some exposure remained in the pool; the show preferred cheaper Tampa options and leaving the difference unspent. 44:06
Views were split between rejecting his salary outright and retaining small exposure; the broader preference was cheaper Tampa receivers and Otton. 45:57
VALUE A favored cheap receiver, especially with Dak Prescott at captain, because his extensive playing time includes actual targets and he may only need 10 to 12 fantasy points in flex. 47:32
VALUE Liked as a $1,200 full punt in Dak Prescott captain builds because designed plays can give him a chance at a long touchdown. 47:32
VALUE A cheap Tampa receiver to use instead of the expensive options, accepting the salary left over rather than forcing an upgrade. 48:43
Cade Otton CORE Called the best Tampa play when salary and expected production are considered, offering a cheaper replacement for Bucky Irving or Emeka Egbuka while leaving salary. 54:04
Cowboys DST CORE A favored defense against a quarterback expected to allow sacks and turnovers, with interest in using it instead of expensive Tampa receivers and a possible double-digit score. 56:36
The least-favored kicker because a large deficit could push Tampa toward touchdowns and fourth-down attempts, although another view allowed for unnecessary field goals in a five-one Dallas build. 56:59
Buccaneers DST LEVERAGE Some exposure was planned to get above approximately 8% ownership at $3,000, relying on one defensive play despite reservations about the game script. 57:43
CORE Strongly supported because Dallas trusts him with very long attempts, including a 62-yard kick in a consequential situation. 1:00:19
More viable as a $1,400 FanDuel punt if the studs dominate, with the warning that such a build may need to accept zero points and should not also leave excessive salary. 1:02:55
Discussed as a more viable $1,800 FanDuel punt when the salary savings allow another stud, rather than expecting meaningful production from the punt itself. 1:02:55
A possible $2,200 FanDuel punt in a stars-and-scrubs build, despite the earlier concern that the backup Dallas tight ends are far down the target hierarchy. 1:02:55
A possible $1,200 FanDuel punt when fitting another stud matters more than the expected zero or minimal production from the cheap slot. 1:02:55

DFS Terms Used on This Show

Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 0:04 Roster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 0:54 OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 4:18 LeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 8:36 ContrarianA contrarian play or lineup is one built around choices most of the field will not make, such as low-owned players, unpopular teams or an unusual salary structure.Pick one or two contrarian spots per lineup and ground each in a real reason. The rest of the roster can look like the field.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 9:01 Game ScriptGame script is how a game's score and time remaining influence its pace, play choices and player opportunities. In football, teams protecting a lead often run more, while teams chasing a deficit often pass more.Before locking a lineup, ask who keeps playing if your expected script reverses. Check passing-down roles and backup rotations instead of assuming a team's leading rusher handles every situation.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 11:38 ChalkChalk is the most popular, highly owned play on a slate. The term comes from sports betting, where the favorite is called the chalk.Don't label chalk good or bad. Ask whether each popular play deserves its ownership, then decide which chalk you'll eat and which you'll fade.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 15:36 RakeRake is the share of entry fees the site keeps as its fee instead of paying it out as prizes. It is the gap between total entry fees and the total prize pool.Compare rake between contests you would enter anyway. A slightly higher rake can be worth it in a softer field, but when the fields look similar, take the contest that keeps less.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 17:00 Bring-BackIn the NFL, a bring-back is usually a wide receiver, tight end or running back from the team facing your quarterback stack.Pick the bring-back who gains the most when his team falls behind. In football that's usually the opponent's top pass catcher, not a running back who loses carries in a comeback.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 23:20 One-OffIn NFL DFS, a one-off is a player you select outside your stacks, commonly a running back or a receiver without his quarterback. An opposing receiver intentionally paired with your stack instead serves as a bring-back.Before adding a one-off, compare him with an affordable teammate of your existing stack. Decide whether his individual upside is worth passing up that extra scoring connection.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 24:23 Spending UpSpending up means choosing a higher-priced player over a cheaper alternative, using more of your lineup's salary budget at that spot. You may also hear it called paying up.Build a version with your preferred expensive player and another without. Before choosing, check whether either version relies on a cheap player whose expected role still depends on unresolved injury news.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 39:06 Stars and ScrubsStars and scrubs is a DFS lineup structure where you spend heavily on several expensive players and fill other roster spots with low-salary players. The cheap players free up salary for the stars; they are not necessarily bad players.Compare the points you gain by upgrading to a star with the points you sacrifice at the cheap spot. Check whether both players still fit your lineup's scoring scenario.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 1:02:55 Cash GameA cash game is a contest that pays a large share of the field, usually close to half, the same flat prize. Fifty-fifties, double-ups and head-to-heads are the common cash games.Treat cash games as the steady base of your bankroll. Use one safe core across your cash entries on a slate, and save riskier ideas for tournaments.Full explanation ↗▶ Said at 1:07:29

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0:04

All Systems go. Clear your liftoff.. What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamerlene here, a.k.a. ToeTagginTambo. Back for another edition of Thursday Night Football Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Full explanation ↗ Shippers here on the Ship It Nation YouTube station. We've got week five, Tampa Bay at Dallas. Got hoop, got title. I'm back in the booth. Better than I was feeling last week, so I appreciate everybody that reached out. But we're going to break this game down as usual.

0:54

We'll get to the captains, the captain ownership, position by position, Roster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Full explanation ↗, how you can handle the slate, a little bit of FanDuel at the end, and more hoop. Bringing you in first. So man, another week, week five begins. We got the game. Glad to have you back, man. Glad to have you back in the saddle. You don't realize how valuable somebody is until you got to get into that hosting booth.

1:13

And well, I mean, I always value, you know, you know, I value, but hosting is no joke, man. I mean, you got to give you credit because you do a hell of a job hosting these shows, always keeping the conversation going, good transition. It's not easy to do. People do not understand how difficult it is to consistently host shows at a high level. And you're definitely one of the best. So glad to have you back.

1:35

So I don't have to host and we have a good game. Got my Cowboys going tonight. Well, not my Cowboys, I guess, but the Cowboys going tonight. Big total, big spread. Yeah, and it should be a good game. So excited to break it down with you guys. Your jersey says otherwise, though. You did get the here we go on. We got the deck ready to rock and roll. That's just because he was printing money for us. Was that two seasons ago?

1:55

I can't remember if it was two or three. It was just a free printer. Just two years ago. Quarter milli week for yourself amongst, you know, another half milli for the community that week. That was the craziest Dak week ever, but. Really? Cause we were ahead of the curve on it. Like we were, we were beating that drum all season long. These guys are going to continue to keep their foot on the gas.

2:14

It doesn't matter if they're up by three touchdowns, four touchdowns, they're just going to keep going.

2:18

And yeah, it was at least three or four weeks I think over the course of the season where it paid off so maybe we get a little bit of that tonight but I mean limited these are main slates not showdown tonight limited options so it won't be as a unique I mean that was like five percent over when we were playing on that season I remember it won't be that long tonight we'll get to that in a second captain you said main slate there for a second I I unfortunately had to miss the Monday festivities and it was a you know close call for your boy over there last week it was a nice run but title what happened to the rishi rice bet

2:48

Because Parker Washington I told everybody this guy don't put up no point games and then gone and he had the worst game but then didn't rice get injured like before like yeah still you didn't get it done like how did that happen how did that work out I've been waiting for this to come up. You've won, right? I won. We covered it. We covered it on Thursday. I thought we – or on Monday.

3:10

I thought we agreed that it's like the DraftKings FanDuel policy where if someone – the early exit insurance – I mean, all I'll say is we didn't agree on anything. Hoop talked to himself, and I didn't say anything back. But I'm not saying anything. This is on Hoop. All I'll say is I would have wore it. That's all I'll say. I know. Yeah. It's okay, though. We got our early eggs. That's all right. That's all right. You got the brew crew. All the people are happy about that.

3:38

Shout out to my boy, Garrett Mitchell. Got me a couple of mega tickets last night with that big save over Machado. I did see a clip. It's crazy when you go. I know we're off topic a little, but I haven't been in the booth, so I'm excited to be back. The Machado robbery, ten years apart, the exact same way. That is nuts. Same spot. Yeah, I mean. All this stuff is just incredible. Shout out to our man, Sean Sully. Happy birthday to you.

3:59

Hopefully you get a shipper tonight. Our guy BG Little Neck made a joke yesterday. Actually, he said, if you want to get a NBA preseason ship, check me out. The guy goes and ships it for himself for $2,000 wins the slate. But I told him, I said, you won't see me in those streets. If I was, I'd be following you. But then I got the two mega tickets last night. So we're going back to back weeks.

4:18

We get a chance to hit up the mega. That's pretty cool. So yeah, Yeah, a lot of fun stuff going on. This week's going to be crazy with Detroit, Arizona on the slate. That'll be Hoop, Title, and myself Sunday morning breaking that all down for you. Got a bunch more shows before then as well. But let's get to this one, Hoop. Grand scheme overview. You mentioned the Dak situation over there and being on him early. Low OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Full explanation ↗ back in the day.

4:37

Well, that's not going to be the case here. He's going to be extremely high owned in the captain tonight. Big favorites at home for the Cowboys against the Buccaneers. Jalen Daniels running it back here. Another shot for him. What's your thoughts on this game, Hoop? Give us your grand scheme overview. Yeah, I mean, so Tampa Bay has been one of the most disappointing teams in football prior to the Baker injury. I mean, that just was kind of insult to injury.

5:01

You know, gasoline on the fire sort of scenario is already bad. And it was disappointing.

5:06

It's not going to get any better obviously with this jalen Daniels guy who's looked horrible in terms of passing the ball the thing that saves him from a fantasy perspective is that he runs a little bit I think it was eight rushes last game for fifty five yards so that saves him a little bit from a fantasy perspective but from a real life football perspective it's a really bad situation for Tampa Bay in terms of winning football games and fantasy as well so um I don't know like obviously the Dallas stuff is going to be way more popular the Dallas captains Dallas everywhere five one Dallas and I get probably wanting to go against the grain you guys might have the argument for it but man just I'll

5:46

Be loading up on Dallas tonight and hoping they absolutely smoke Tampa which I think they do I mean Dallas has always been better at home They have the guys that you want. They got the Dax. They got CD. They have Pickens. They have Javonte Williams, who's had, I think, a three-touchdown game this season. I'm just going to be loading Dallas and hope they smoke Tampa and see what ends up happening because I don't see a path for Tampa to hang around in this game.

6:16

So all in Dallas for me. Title, I'll kick it over to you on the same thought here. I mean, who went to it already? I was going to bring up the Roster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Full explanation ↗ angle. Definitely looks like, again, we know the captains are more popular on the Dallas side. They're the home favorite, the big favorite. All these factors and more are the easy part to figure out. But it looks like it could be heavy five, one, and four, two as well.

6:36

So there's just not enough on the other side. People kind of want to pick one of Egbuka, Godwin, or if they're playing a value guy, it's like, is it Hurst? Is it Tez? We'll get to the receivers later. I don't think they're super high on Bucky. For example, because his price is so high and you'll see all that. So how do you see the roster construction playing out and then anything different on this game that you're seeing?

6:56

And then you can get into the captain conversation. Yeah, no, I see it pretty similar. Five ones will be very popular for two Dallas. It's just really hard on the Buccaneers side when they have a quarterback that, I mean, just runs the ball pretty much like these receivers aren't even getting targets. He can't even push it downfield. It makes it really difficult to click these names. Then you look at the prices, $8,200 Igbuka, $7,200 Godwin.

7:18

I mean, I don't even know if they're going to be twenty and nineteen percent. They might even be lower than that. It's it's really tough when you get.

7:25

The buck side the ones that are appealing like jalen Daniels has a good price at $8,600 kate otten has a good price at $4,400 but that's where people are gonna go on that team so I'm definitely struggling to get difference um the nice thing is though at least for the Cowboys is they have Dak, they have Seedy, they have Pickens, Javonte. Then you can add Ferguson or Flournoy.

7:46

I'm fine mixing Flournoy and Ferguson at captain as ways to get different on this slate because I'm not going to play any Buccaneers at captain outside of maybe Jalen Daniels. But then I look at Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Full explanation ↗ and he's ten percent. It feels like how he gets to the optimal is almost just garbage time. Like they're down twenty one nothing or whatever. And then Dallas plays prevent and he can just dink and dunk. And I guess that's the case if you do want to go the Godwin route.

8:12

I think it's probably not in a competitive game where they get there. And then, yeah, you talk about Bucky. It's hard to play an $8,400 running back is nine and a half point underdogs, especially when you add in Sean Tucker, vaulted him at the goal line. And there's been coach speak that they want to get him a little more involved. I'm struggling as a way to get different on this slate. You can always leave salary, but roster construction-wise for sure.

8:36

As far as my captains, I think it's Seedy, Javonte, Dak, Pickens, and I think Flournoy is my LeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Full explanation ↗ one that I'm going to add in there. He's just on the field a ton in three-receiver sets. If Flournoy gets the job done, that means it's not Seedy more than Likely. It's not Pickens more than Likely as much. Maybe a little more pickings than Seedy to the field just because Seedy's looking almost double the OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Full explanation ↗ coming off that massive game, pickings disappointed.

9:01

So maybe a little recency bias and just go the pickings route. But I really struggled to get ContrarianA contrarian play or lineup is one built around choices most of the field will not make, such as low-owned players, unpopular teams or an unusual salary structure.Pick one or two contrarian spots per lineup and ground each in a real reason. The rest of the roster can look like the field.Full explanation ↗ at the Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Full explanation ↗ on this one. I like the Pickens one quite a bit, actually. I think that's the one that's most interesting to me when he's the fourth highest owned captain on the Cowboys and maybe the fifth on the slate because of Jalen Daniels, if he actually does exceed him up top there. I think it's, again, we always look at the stone.

9:24

That's what I use for my process. I'm seeing some leverage there. I still see some leverage, by the way, on Lamb and Prescott and all that. Like it just, they could be under-owned even, as a whole, but just, you know, they're going to be very popular, but just noting it, Pickens would be the guy that you can just steal some of those CD lamb points from in your model. We do this all the time with Higgins over chase.

9:41

And some of those games we saw last year, Pickens have a bunch of big games that lamb did not. I know lamb is coming off of a huge game. Uh, that was a big part of a lot of the success of the shiver nation community last week with the Stroud, Nico Collins, and then run it back with lamb. What a game for CeeDee Lamb that was. But I think a lot of that carries over, right?

9:58

People just auto-assume it's going to be back to that. Why not use a spot like this to get your guy Pickens heated up too and get him some confidence and get him rolling? So I like Pickens quite a bit up top. He's not any of the other guys. He's going to leverage the popular Dak and Lamb spot that they're in. You could run some unique lineups that way, but I think you said it.

10:17

It's tough on the other side, especially when my process is to trust the stone. How does a guy like Godwin get up top? Well, to me, the way he gets up top is he just continuously gets peppered, gets a touchdown, and then the Dallas side spreads it out so much. But that's not really how they play or do things. I know they have multiple guys that they could spread it out to, but it's just not what they do.

10:35

So, um, I'm trusting the stone a little bit on that side as well. It's tougher to imagine that. I think it's, you know, how you have to get there though, is you're playing for that scenario, that game hoop. And for me, it's more than Likely if I have a Godwin or a Buka type, you know, captain up there, uh, wide receiver from the Buccaneers, something like that. It's going to be probably in a two, four.

10:55

I'm still going to want those Dallas guys coming back the other way. I'm just going to hope it spreads out a little bit and maybe the price difference, but even then it's not that different, right? It's, I don't know. I guess it's somewhat different. If you've got like Godwin, ten, eight in the captain, that's a lot less than, you know, fifteen, six, sixteen, two, seventeen, seven, or fourteen, one for the four main Dallas guys.

11:14

So you'd fit a little bit more of a unique lineup, but You'll also just land in a lot of the same spots others would that do go there. And he's going to be, you know, two to five percent up top. But what's your thoughts of the captain tonight? Oh, we got the first mute. All right. First of the season. I think you had the you had one. Your first, I should say. Yeah. Yeah. It's very difficult for me to.

11:38

Make the case for really any of those guys up top like I just don't know how they get there and then like you don't need a Dallas guy instead of them it would just I just don't see it like I get it I guess just from a contrarian standpoint that's the only reason like you would be doing it uh I just don't see the Game ScriptGame script is how a game's score and time remaining influence its pace, play choices and player opportunities. In football, teams protecting a lead often run more, while teams chasing a deficit often pass more.Before locking a lineup, ask who keeps playing if your expected script reverses. Check passing-down roles and backup rotations instead of assuming a team's leading rusher handles every situation.Full explanation ↗ where it actually comes true so for me I'm looking at it like okay you know I know a lot of people don't want to just go with the popular plays or the popular side but daniel's ten eleven percent owned right okay if you don't play him That's ten potentially gone.

12:18

Bucky, four to five percent. So now we're up to fifteen. You know, you're going to have some Otton up there, two to three percent. You know, there's going to be some Ibuka. You know, there's going to be some Godwin up there. So then like you start adding all this stuff up and you might get twenty to twenty five percent Tampa Bay captain.

12:34

And if you just X all those guys out and just play Dallas and get overweight on all the Dallas guys, like that's the sort of strategy I'm interested in tonight. And then for the Tampa stuff in the flex, I think there's ways to get different. Like, you know, when we get to running back, If you have a team that has Bucky Irving in there, just say, you know what? I think this is going to be a Dallas blowout. They're going to go to their backups.

12:58

I'm just going to take out Bucky and plug in Gainwell. $4,400 left on the table right there. It's going to be less dupe sort of situation. So that's kind of how I'm looking. I want to be all in Dallas captain tonight. My favorites are definitely CeeDee Lamb. Like his connection with Dak is insane right now.

13:19

And the stats over the last year, three games I mean he's looking to him over Pickens almost every single play I mean this guy has a hundred and eighty nine a hundred and twelve one hundred and fifty three like the connection is absolutely insane now I still want some Pickens and it's easy to get overweight on Pickens if I'm not playing the Tampa guys so I can get overweight on all these guys really the only one I'm gonna be just with the field on or maybe a little below Ironically, it's the guy's jersey that I have on in Dak because I just feel like anytime Dak does it, someone does more, whether it's CD, whether it's Pickens, could even be Flournoy or Ferguson.

14:01

I'll keep in the mix at the captain just a little bit. So Dak, I'm fine being right at. What are we showing for ownership on him? We have him at twenty percent. I'd be fine being right around there or upper teams. I want to be over on CD. I want to be over on Javonte. Javonte is my number two.

14:19

Uh at uh what did we have him at twelve if I get around twenty or something I'd be happy with that Pickens you know, probably a little above. And then I'd keep Ferguson in there. I'd keep Flournoy in there. And then that's what I'm looking at. Dak, CD, Javonte, Pickens, Ferguson, Flournoy, and then just whacking out all the Tampa. And then how do you get unique in those lineups?

14:42

The CD lineups or the Dak captain lineups is some of this other stuff, leaving salary on the table, making those pivots where you're just dropping from you know, player A down to player B. I use the Bucky example. So that's how I want to play it today. If I can't make the case in my head or really come up with a reasonable game script where I think Tampa is needed in captain, I'm just not going to do it.

15:02

Yeah, Title, I'll kick back over to you for quarterbacks in a second, but anything else you want to add at the captain, you can chime in. I'll just say to hoop strategy there, like for those at home, if you're not following along, it's like he just rolls those guys. Let's just say twenty on Dak. That'd be field. Twenty on Javonte. I know you said be a little under just noting it, but twenty on Javonte.

15:19

If he's twelve and you got twenty, you're almost double the field. Lamb, you'd still be slightly over the field. Pickens, you'll be double the field. You know, that would leave you enough to be double the field on, you'd be triple the field on Flournoy, triple the field on Ferguson, and even have a little bit left over to spread around if you want to be a little more aggressive on one of those guys.

15:36

I think that's where people struggle, Hoop, is even with a portfolio approach, is they'll say, hey, I don't want to play all the ChalkChalk is the most popular, highly owned play on a slate. The term comes from sports betting, where the favorite is called the chalk.Don't label chalk good or bad. Ask whether each popular play deserves its ownership, then decide which chalk you'll eat and which you'll fade.Full explanation ↗ or I don't want to do this. It's like, that's fine. But you're, you can get leverage on all the chalk even further. Plus there's bad lineups in that.

15:50

Let's say Dak is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, I'm not saying you're going to get all the way there, but just noting it, that's the thing. So if you have like, you know, whoever you choose, if it's Javonte and you've got twenty of them, there's going to be a bad chunk of Javonte lineups.

16:18

If you build accordingly and you've actually got twenty, you're going to be really leveraged to the field and be able to get those other good lineups cycled within where it leaves $2,000 on the table. But as this that makes sense or whatever it might be, any other thoughts of the captain you want to finalize with before talking about the quarterbacks further? Yeah, no, I'm on the exact same page.

16:37

I probably will hardly have any Tampa, maybe a little again Jalen Daniels, and I can just see the path where, yeah, his first half's terrible, but maybe he gets rushed. Prevent defense. The Cowboys are up twenty one nothing. He could just rush for ten yards here, ten yards there, get a rushing touchdown and the $8,600 price tags. Good. So he's the one I'm fine keeping in. But yeah, in total agreement, we have it about a little over twenty percent.

17:00

Tampa captains, that's paying the RakeRake is the share of entry fees the site keeps as its fee instead of paying it out as prizes. It is the gap between total entry fees and the total prize pool.Compare rake between contests you would enter anyway. A slightly higher rake can be worth it in a softer field, but when the fields look similar, take the contest that keeps less.Full explanation ↗ if they're not there. Then, like you said, $88,000 people are in this contest on DraftKings. So even though these guys will be owned, you should trust yourself to build better lineup. So, yeah, I'm going to eat the chalk at captain as far as quarterbacks. Yeah, I have a little more interest. Let me just add one one one thing before we go into that portion, because I think this is an important point.

17:22

Our guy, the prophet Tampa Bay, locks down wide receiver ones and running backs. Do not feast on them either. This is where early on in the season, you have to look deeper into that sort of thing. It can't just be defense first position. They've played the Browns, right? The Browns are winning football games. Horrible offense. They've played the Vikings. The worst offense, I'd say, probably in football outside of the really shitty team. And they played the Packers who, sorry, title, but their offense is fucking horrible too.

17:51

So they played three of the worst offenses in football. So you have to dig a little deeper into that. Don't let that be the decision point on what you do for the slate. Just wanted to point that out. Yeah, you don't got to say sorry. The Packers are dust. Go Brewers. Go Brewers. But I think – yeah, I think I have a little more interest at the captain for Dak than Hoop just because I like Florene, and we can see Ferguson get a touchdown.

18:18

And, yeah, I think – Like we're showing Dak is the highest zone at twenty percent. I wouldn't be surprised if like CD and Dak flip. And I know that's fourteen hundred dollars like that still is a lot of money. But quarterbacks, especially non running quarterbacks are ones that just aren't known for that. People get a little more skeptical and CD just coming off that massive game. Again, he is more expensive, so I could be wrong, but. Yeah, I mean, I like the quarterbacks a lot, though.

18:44

Jalen Daniels in the flex, $8,600 for a running quarterback that's going to be out there for four quarters, even if they're down a ton since he's not the starter. Like there's just so many outs he has, even if he plays terrible all game. So I like him a lot in the flex. I like Dak a ton. I'm going to play plenty of quarterbacks. Real quick on this, D, you just got to be careful with that. I know, Andrews, you're always here supporting and with us.

19:04

We appreciate you, man. But, you know, when you do that, you will just get the same lineup everybody else has of that lineup. If it's a high-stakes, smaller-field tournament, maybe you can get away with it a little bit. There's two hundred people in the FFWCQ with five hundred dollar buy in and, you know, most don't go this route. So maybe there's one or two of you that have this and then you could be in good shape.

19:25

But for the most part, it's not really the best idea because you're going to land on a lineup that just so many people say, oh, but he's only two percent in captain. Yeah, but almost all that two percent look exactly like this lineup. So if you're doing that. Let's say it lands on Pickens as one of the guys you're calling all the guys in the flex.

19:41

Well, you might want to hope that Flournoy is the one catching the Pickens bombs that others are not. So while you can fit Pickens with a Flournoy captain, you might leave him out of it and just drop down to somebody else and say, who cares? Leave the money because I'm saying this is the script instead, but it's still going to be a big enough game.

19:57

The tricky part then is, if raw points get beat, you know, get him with lamb or something, you could have just afforded that to flip them. And then you're in a tricky spot. That's why it doesn't work out very often. Just so you know, a hoop, anything else you want to add at quarterback when it comes to the flex, right? I mean, use them with certain guys up top.

20:15

I recognize that, but let me ask you this another way, because it's pretty obvious, you know, put, put the quarterback sometimes in the flex when you got a receiver up top, not always, but most of the time, but let's use Jalen Daniels. He is basically the same price. He's two hundred bucks more than Bucky, four hundred bucks more than Igbuka, fourteen hundred more than Godwin. Is there any world?

20:34

What do you think or how much do you love a five one with Daniels on the other side and just hope that he's all the production and it's none of his guys versus sometimes we don't do that because you're saying, well, if they're going to be down, it's going to be the receiver that's catching all the passes or whatever it might be. What do you think of that?

20:47

I like it, but I do think in this scenario, that'll be the common path that most people take. Like it's going to, if they are doing a five, one, they're going to say, all right, well, I got this running quarterback on the other side. Like I'll just, you know, bank on that sort of floor. So I think a lot of people do it. Um, But I do like it.

21:04

I mean, I think it does make the most sense to me because you're capturing a lot of the offense and the price is fair at $8,600. So, yeah, I'm fine with it. I do think it's going to be the route that most people take. But I like him in the flex for sure. Like a team I don't think is going to score many points tonight. Real life points and fantasy points. I get a running quarterback, you know, eight rush attempts.

21:28

Dallas defense is not great. So he can do something in garbage time. Like the way I see this game going, I just think they're going to be down by so much where it's not going to end up, you know, mattering in terms of the actual game. But I think he can do enough. Like I would put him in the, you know, the projection for him is mid to high teens fantasy points. I think that's probably where he ends up. I just don't see much of a ceiling.

21:50

So prefer him in the flex for sure. Yeah. Anything else that quarterback that you're thinking about? Like Dak, you mentioned being a little bit lower on him in the captain than his number, not overall, but then his actual current percentage. But is there, you know, is that just saying that when he's not up top, he's almost always in the, in the flex for you or what do you think? Very, very, very Likely that he's in the optimal lineup tonight.

22:12

There's not many scenarios where he's not in the optimal lineup in my eyes, how I see this thing playing out. It's like a pass-first team. He has all the weapons. The way he's not is obviously a Javonte captain team. So the only spot where I feel – if I was hand-building, the only spot I feel comfortable not playing Dak in flex would be Javonte Williams' captain teams. Yeah, so we have Flex Optimal and Captain Optimal on the stone.

22:40

I think the only higher than Dak tonight, because just the way these two teams break out, I think was probably like Bijan situations or Gibbs situations. Like when you get those guys, of course, they're in almost every version. But it's over, I think it's over almost eighty five percent anyway, close enough to it that, you know, at least it makes it somewhat interesting.

22:59

And we'll get to the receivers in a bit, but I do think that is the, you know, finally finalizing the quarterback in flex conversation. I do think that's the spot where a lot of the, once you go away from a Dak or a CD lamb captain, like even the Javon, I'm sorry. And Javonte, he's up there as well. But I'm saying once you get to like Pickens or Ferguson or anything else like that, um, You just have the money for Jalen Daniels.

23:20

And I think a lot of people, because of optimizers, projections, things like that, he runs or can run, people think. So they're going to go to him. But you could just play like an Ibuka, a Godwin, Teddy Hurst, whatever you want to drop it down to and just hope that that's the Bring-BackIn the NFL, a bring-back is usually a wide receiver, tight end or running back from the team facing your quarterback stack.Pick the bring-back who gains the most when his team falls behind. In football that's usually the opponent's top pass catcher, not a running back who loses carries in a comeback.Full explanation ↗ on a five-one. And it works better on a five-one-two title. I'll kick it over to you for running back, but...

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Beforehand on a five one is you're more Likely to get away with the one being a drop down price guy, right? Then in the other city, because it's not like someone was going to flip it. You already might have lamb up top. It's not like Flournoy in the captain when you're like, yeah, but if you're not playing pickings there and you still have lamb, you'd be able just to flip lamb back up.

24:00

And then it's not as good of a build on the one for the five one build. It's if it's not, you know, Jalen Daniels, that just doesn't automatically mean it's next man up in Bucky Irving or next man up in a book. Like it could easily just be Godwin and leave the money, or it could literally be like Tez or Teddy Hearst catch a late bomb. And they're the one on the other side that you need. And it's like, damn, they overrode everybody else.

24:23

But the Cowboys did have so many points outscoring those other guys that you just needed that One-OffIn NFL DFS, a one-off is a player you select outside your stacks, commonly a running back or a receiver without his quarterback. An opposing receiver intentionally paired with your stack instead serves as a bring-back.Before adding a one-off, compare him with an affordable teammate of your existing stack. Decide whether his individual upside is worth passing up that extra scoring connection.Full explanation ↗ with five grand on the table. So just so people know how the one can work in your favor. That's one thing I would add there, but I'll let you take us into running back. Yeah, that's a good point.

24:36

Like my favorite one builds like if I played one Buccaneers is either Jalen Daniels or just like a punt, like an odd and like because I don't really maybe they score five points and that's just enough from a Buccaneers because all the studs, it gets you all the studs on the Cowboys side. The Schultz game you just brought up. Remember the Dalton Schultz game when he had like nine catches in the fourth quarter? Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's an example.

24:59

That was from classic slate, but I'm saying that's an example where like, imagine it is like none of the Tampa guys are really putting up shit. And then you just get the Otton six, seven catches down the stretch or something like, damn, now it's Otton just racking up all these points. Anything like that could happen. So that's where, again, how many people would just leave the, what is it?

25:17

$4,200 from Jalen Daniels down to Otton and just hope that it's him. And Daniels gets beat up on all game, but Otton racks up the catches and you need five guys from Dallas. That's how that can work in your favor. I'll let you go ahead into running back with great points there. Yeah. Um, running back is relatively tough.

25:34

Like I, I think my favorite ones, again, Javonte is a great plays minus two hundred to score by far the best, but I think it's mainly just the value. Like Sean Tucker and Tyler Goodson are my favorites. Like Bucky is clearly overpriced as nine and a half point underdogs. Jalen Daniels. I mean, he's a running quarterback. Like he's not really checking the ball down as much.

25:53

Kenny Gainwell at $4,000 it just, it doesn't feel with Jalen Daniels back there that his forty two percent snap share or whatever is going to be enough. Just give me all the savings. Like I'm saying, maybe I'll play five Cowboys and play Sean Tucker because he's $2,400. He got a touchdown last week. Some coach speak. They said they wanted to get Sean Tucker a little more involved. So I like that. We need value on this late. And Tyler Goodson, he's $2,000.

26:18

He's running back to now for this team. Played sixteen snaps last week. If they're up twenty one or twenty eight or something, you're good. You're not going to see Javonte playing a ton in the fourth quarter. Tyler Goodson out there and a lot of random stuff can happen. So, yeah, it's weird to say. Obviously, Javonte is my favorite. But after Javonte, give me the punts. Give me Goodson at $2,000. Give me Sean Tucker at $2,400. I don't love Gainwell.

26:43

I do not love Bucky Irving. I'd pick Gainwell over Bucky because of the price. But I'm dumpster diving at running back. What about this? We just saw it again. This is – what is this? Two times now that we've seen this? Brian Robinson Jr., Bijan Rodgers. Packers on Thursday and Monday, yep. Yeah. So what, what about that? You think people actually go to this tonight with like a Williams Goodson? I mean, not really. I don't think so because we saw it with Brian Robinson Jr. once before.

27:10

And I mean, Brian Robinson Jr. has a real role to an extent. Like he's going to play roughly thirty percent. He'll spell Bijan and they've obviously been willing to. I mean, Brian Robinson Jr.'s been in the league for multiple years. He was a real running back in Washington. Like he's a power back. It's not a Tyler Goodson. So I I don't think people are really going to do that because of what happened on Monday. It's a different situation. I agree. I think that's the case.

27:34

Kenny Gainwell is a different conversation on the other side, but again, that's another buck. So I'll get to Hoop in a second. Speaking of Kenny's though, shout out to our man, Kenny Z said, nice to just open my app and see you guys getting the team prepped. You got the logo there, but I saw you last night with the logo. You were chasing me before I fell asleep in that baseball streets, but we appreciate you rocking the logo still, man. So shout out to you.

27:53

I actually, when I saw Kenny, Kenny might remember this. I think I saw what I was talking to you guys about pre-show. I think I saw Kenny in Chicago. And it might've been at the, was it at a White Sox game or was it when we went to Wrigley? Damn, it might've been at Wrigley actually, my bad. But we were saying today how like the White Sox were so horrible.

28:10

We went to a game there for one of the live finals a year or two ago. And now they're like in, you know, leading the series in the ALDS. It's just crazy how baseball flips around. And then this one, before I go to you Hoopa, I'm running back. I almost play no lineups with $50,000 max, like typically because, again, I just don't be like, oh, don't you want the $5,000? I get it. And yeah, it's nice.

28:31

But I'm saying like if I get it and it somehow gets into my pool and that's what I get for my money and it's the best lineup. Great. But I'm really not trying to win five grand when it's $500,000 up top. And the most I'm willing to leave on the table probably would shock you because I don't know what it'll be till I get to the slate. But very most their slates where there's $10,000. On the table, no problem.

28:49

So it's just, it's playing the game for the what if titles coined it many years ago and said it, but it's not how often you're right. It's how much you win when you are right. I just, if I'm right once during NFL Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Full explanation ↗ season, it could be all the money. We saw Knowlesman win $500,000 shot of G Rison's buddy Knowlesman. He got the $500,000. The other night was a nice chop. What was it? One hundred and thirty way each or.

29:09

Oh, I thought it was two twenty five. It might have been two twenty eight or something. Yeah. You're right. Maybe or something. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I'm playing for. No quarterback. No quarterback. And which is the like you look at the lineup, you don't think it's crazy. Then when you break down the Roster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Full explanation ↗ and see no quarterback. And again, when you see a nine and a half point spread today, like random stuff can happen again.

29:31

If this game does get out of hand, you're going to see garbage time, random guys out there. And that's how you can leave the money. So. Yeah, it's not, like you said, not how often you win, when you win, how much. Nolzmann, I can promise you, he's not going to lose money in showdown this year. Unless, I guess, he does something crazy. He fires hard. I said showdown, just showdown. Not his whole year, but he fires. He fires. Nolzmann's the man.

29:56

Got to beat him at some of the live finals. And G. Reisner always sends us the pictures of his house. He's living pretty good. He's not going to – let me tell you this. He could give back all that money somehow, and he's still going to be okay. Let me promise you that. Nolzmann is the man. All right, Hoop. That's enough back and forth. I'll let you get to running back now. The Kenny Gainwell, the Bucky Irving.

30:14

One thing is we did add the grades to the stone. People just beg for these early. So to Timmy's point here with the new grading system, don't you think? Yeah, they'll probably want to try. I guarantee you the Bucs will want to try and get a lot of things going early. It's just whether or not they do. But also to Hoop's point, the grades usually are like weeks six, seven. I know the thing, but usually that's when we bring it out.

30:36

We busted it out a little bit early this year because people have been begging for it. I wouldn't be putting too much into this yet to Hoop's point of some of these matchups, what they faced, all of that. Um, if it, if it works great, but, uh, you know, it won't be victory lapping that one too hard. It's just too early still. Same with DVP and all that type of stuff. You got to really give a little bit more time. Go ahead.

30:56

Very tough position. Like Javonte Williams have already talked about him, you know, good play in the flex, uh, captain love them want to be overweight on him and the captain. I want to play some of these cheap running backs and probably will have to, but it's like I just I don't like the Goodson stuff as much like they just ride their guys like their main guys like so hard, even if they're up by three touchdowns like they still ride these guys and.

31:22

I'm going to have some, like, goods in the pool for sure. But, man, I just don't love it. Like, if there's cheap wide receivers, like, over these cheap running backs, I want those guys. But I just looked at wide receiver, and I don't think there's many cheap wide receivers. So it's going to be, like, a necessary evil to probably play some of these guys. Don't like Bucky. Definitely prefer Gainwell over Bucky.

31:43

If you're trying to get, like, a one or two situation and not go down to Tucker, definitely will just take my chance on Gainwell and hopefully get some dump offs.

31:52

Uh Sean Tucker fine as a you know a full punt at at but it's just it's these guys are going to have to be played out in necessity to probably make things work because again I didn't see much at a wide receiver in terms of cheap options and the same can be said for for tight ends so probably especially if you're doing one fifty if you're not making a hundred and fifty or even fifty line you're only making like five to ten lineups you really don't need to be here all that much at all You don't even have to mess with it.

32:22

Just fade it all, play Javonte Williams, and move on because I'm not seeing much that I do like here. If I'm going to rank these guys, Javonte for sure won. Gainwell, then Sean Tucker, I guess. Then Bucky and Goodson, I guess, are the last options for me. And the thing with Bucky, it's $8,400.

32:46

People are going to look at it and say, I don't want to play him, but people are just going to play him because he's the starting running back for one of two teams on the slate. We're showing flex OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Full explanation ↗ at... Twenty-five. Twenty-five percent. If you don't play him, twenty-five percent of the field potentially bye-bye or take an underweight stance on him.

33:07

All these little moves you make add up to a big move if you're going to be Dallas heavy and avoid Bucky, avoid Godwin, avoid Igbuka, who we'll talk about next. So that's my path for sure tonight is avoiding as many Tampa guys as I can in the flux. And obviously I'm not playing any in the captain. So that's what I'm looking at here tonight. But it's a weak position, very weak, all these running backs.

33:32

I like one thing that you said there a lot actually was about the point about like the little moves adding up to a big move. The thing I'll say is like, I guess, and I know it's just wording.

33:41

I know what you meant, but I'm saying that we don't know if it's a big move because we don't get the results yet, but it is a very valuable move because that's what people need to see is like when you said it best with the Bucky Irving thing, if he's twenty five, and you take an underweight stance on him, you can get fifteen. You still got plenty of Bucky, but you're ten percent underweight.

33:56

But if you shift some of that to Gainwell and Tucker and that type of stuff, like that's where the valuable setup is. Obviously, if Bucky goes off, you're in trouble. But it's like you weren't taking that stance ever anyway. So this move can work in your favor quite nicely if you do that. Our guy, Gary, I love this. So I got to meet him at a few of these finals Tuesdays. He says, I met Nozman at FFWC, went to FSU, so we hit it off.

34:17

He's a cool dude and a maniac at the same time. So we get along great. Gary's a maniac of his own. So love that stuff. I want to show you guys this real quick because – We did add a couple of new things over at Ship It Nation.

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There's now ten brand new articles that we've started with that you can go into and see by topic or what they are and get all the differences from that and be able to go in and see what you want to learn from it. If you go into an article, let's say you're only playing one to three lineups, make sure to grab your free copy of the DFS Mastermind Blueprint. You just put your email in there.

35:35

You'll get the fifty nine page PDF guide sent over to you as well. I wanted to look up the Bucky Irving thing, though, and bring this up at our friends, DFSOS.com. You guys can use code SHIPIT to get half price. But if you go to Sean Tucker here, Hoop, it says, this is from two days ago, Mike Nuggets, NFL, and they don't take anything from beat writers, I'm learning.

35:54

I talked to these guys over at Mike Nuggets, and it's all from coaches or players speak. No beat writers, you can get that from wherever, and they're all just guessing. But it said, this is from two days ago, Robinson says, Tampa Bay needs to get Sean Tucker and Kenny Gainwell more involved. Zach Robinson says, we got to get Tuck going some more for sure. Did a great job on that short yard run, carrying the pile for a gain of eight. That was outstanding.

36:20

And then the line blocked it. You can go read the whole thing there. But title, anything else on the Tampa side of the risk stuff and what Hoop talked about? Or Hoop, you got something you want to add in? Go ahead first. Yes. The one thing I was going to add is this is great when we're talking for the Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Full explanation ↗ slate, this little bit of information. But imagine being involved in an organization, right, an NFL team. This guy, I'm assuming, is relatively high up.

36:44

And thinking that getting Sean Tucker and Kenny Gainwell more involved in your offense is going to lead to more success for your team. Like, you know you're fucked at that point, right? Like, you know it's game over. Yeah, it makes it tricky for sure. Tyler, what do you think? All I see is Tyler Goodson has a higher rushing prop than Sean Tucker and Kenny Gainwell. Now, again, that's just rushing yards.

37:10

The pass catching is more of a gain while the touchdown equity is on those guys' side. Yeah. I mean, I think that show, I like Goodson a ton today. I think he has multiple outs to get there, but that shows a lot when he has a higher rushing prop than those two. I'll let you go on wide receiver in a second, but I think like without, again, sometimes we just say things that I think about things in my way.

37:29

And the way I'm thinking about what you just said is actually critical probably, because if you look at it, it's when we get to wide receiver here in a second, the $2,800 Teddy Hurst. Pretty good OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Full explanation ↗ on him versus the others. Tez Johnson is the guy they're thinking about right behind him. Nobody's really on Sean Tucker. So you could argue like that could be the way over there. But to me, it's also the other side.

37:49

If you need to flip the build a little bit, it's like any lineup that's using Tez or Teddy Hurst could be Goodson. Finishing out the running back conversation, letting you take over for wide receiver. So sometimes that can work in your favor. If you do find something like that, obviously it could be Sean Tucker for a little bit more money than those guys are right in between them.

38:09

But I like that from the Goodson perspective and then putting it in with the prop as well. So good call out there. Take us into wide receiver. Um, yeah, I just saw this comment. Hey, I still do think he's dust, but I mean, you don't want to watch a show when no one has any takes and conviction. I mean, we're going to be wrong so many times. We can't see the future.

38:27

If I did as much as I love what I do, I would not be on here because I'd have all the money and not tell anyone what would happen. So just wanted to say that. Speak poorly about Rashee Rice as well. You know, it's the same. You got an injured title. You got right. Yeah. You took my guy down. All your negativity took him down. The guy is so good, and he works so hard in the offseason.

38:46

He can't run an end around or whatever it was. He pulls his hammies. It was a tough offseason for him. He had a lot going on. That's what I was trying to tell you. He's not locked in, but you can't victory lap an injury. My guy was way worse all game, so I can't say a word. As far as receiver... I mean, I think Godwin Urbuka, the worst plays on the slate by a mile.

39:06

I can imagine paying that price to Spending UpSpending up means choosing a higher-priced player over a cheaper alternative, using more of your lineup's salary budget at that spot. You may also hear it called paying up.Build a version with your preferred expensive player and another without. Before choosing, check whether either version relies on a cheap player whose expected role still depends on unresolved injury news.Full explanation ↗ to be ContrarianA contrarian play or lineup is one built around choices most of the field will not make, such as low-owned players, unpopular teams or an unusual salary structure.Pick one or two contrarian spots per lineup and ground each in a real reason. The rest of the roster can look like the field.Full explanation ↗. Sure, it's not for me. Give me the value at wide receiver. Ted Hurst, Ted Johnson, Ryan Flournoy, Kevontae Turpin. If I want to play Seedy, Pickens, Dak, Kevontae, a captain, we play a salary-based game and we need salary savings. So I mentioned Sean Tucker. I mentioned Goodson. Ted Hurst and all, Tez Johnson, Turpin, twelve hundred bucks, get some design plays. Flournoy is my favorite, though.

39:33

I mean, one of these games he's going to he's out there a ton like it just hasn't connected yet. But he has so many opportunities. Hoping today is the day you can leave plenty of money going from. I mean, you can go Pickens to Florida. No, it's a one game slate. Is it my favorite way? No, but it's something if you want to win $500,000 by yourself. Yeah. Like a Pickens and CD are fine. Again, a Buka Godwin. Absolutely.

39:56

No, thank you. It is interesting, though, because everyone is like Ted Hurst is everyone's boy. Last week, it finally flipped, though. Tez Johnson out snapped Hurst thirty five to twenty five. The weeks prior, it was Hurst playing about three times more snaps. So that's just something interesting to note. I think Tez Johnson, a little more interesting at lower OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Full explanation ↗ than Hurst seeing that. But I like all of these cheapies. Again, I'm playing studs up top, so I need cheap players. And that's definitely where I'm going.

40:24

Kabuka Godwin, I mean, I can get made fun of, but the worst plays on the slate, in my opinion. Our chat is so good. We said hard to be locked in when you're locked up. And then Andrews said the only thing good at rice is good at running away from. That's how he gets his offseason workouts in. Does anybody care about this one either? Like what just happened? I don't even think I think he's he might be dust.

40:48

One of you two said it on Sunday and he means nothing. Yeah. It was like that. That's just whatever. Like, I don't know the more interesting guy coming from a Pittsburgh team that I'd be talking about.

40:58

Somebody mentioned up top there and I know we moved off it, but I actually thought that was a little bit somewhat interesting from our projections and ownership and all that type of stuff is if you were going to try and split the middle on it, I actually think Gainwell would be the one that's a little bit more interesting because he has shown capability and whether or not that matters in a game like this or against this team or whatever that might be.

41:16

But I think he's interesting at more than half the price of Bucky. He's good. He just hasn't played more than fifty percent of snaps. There's three guys they want to mix in. Their team is complete dog shit at this point. I mean, when your team is not good, it's it's difficult for, you know, secondary offensive pieces to to do anything. I mean, the team has been horrible. JPJ, he does got a couple J's in that name, though, for those that know the inside joke.

41:41

That's one thing that, man, I'll just continue to harp on, and I think all three of us kind of do.

41:47

It's like these top – not even the top wide receivers, like mediocre wide receivers can just beat – good cornerbacks like there's such an advantage the way the way the NFL set up it's just like they are there's very few guys I don't even know the guys title you do a better job of knowing the absolute like lockdown guys like I don't even know who they are but it's very few and far between where I'm like dan he might be matched up with this dude I gotta stay away it just don't like that's one thing I would just beat in everyone's head just don't even don't let that we lost one in certain last week Yeah, and these guys, they all move around so much.

42:22

The top dudes are all over the field. They're in the slot. Some are in the backfield. Like Puka's in the backfield sometimes. They had CD in the backfield. So they're all over. Yeah, definitely agree with that. The Flournoy call I really like too here, actually, because I think Dak, one, I agree with you earlier. I could see CD and him flipping a little bit if we get the twenty seventeen flip flop. I agree. That's very Likely or possible at least. But if you got Dak up top.

42:50

It's so easy to afford lamb in the flex on this slate. And I'm not talking about leaving lamb down to floor. And I'm just saying building differently or whatever it might be. But I definitely think there's an opportunity to, you know, have like a Pickens Flournoy in the flex and then see how you want to fill it out from there. Because yes, you'll probably end up leaving money. But remember, everybody that does that is like, oh man, but $4,500 left.

43:12

I can just move pickings up to lamb. Yeah, you just did the same thing everybody else did. You just have to get comfortable being uncomfortable and move on. And I know it's tricky when you're hand building. He's like, oh, just click, click. I got the money. It's it's think of that as like removing.

43:26

Money from your five hundred thousand dollar pool up top that's what you just did essentially it's like you you said I don't want five and you guys watch all these beast game shows and mr beast videos and stuff it's like you are when you're doing that and then maxing out your lineup with the same construction and all the money used you're saying like yeah I want to live in this grocery store for two years but take half the money away too

43:47

You don't want to do that if you're going to make this effort and put this money on the line try and win it all not saying you got to be that crazy but we're just noting it it's on like a one game slate you could see the lineup set up differently, and you don't have to just leave all the money, but you could just build without Lamb in the flex with Dak up top, have Flournoy Pickens, and then see where it goes from there.

44:06

On the Tampa side, for me, Hoop, and then I'll kick it over to you, he did lean Daniels on Godwin quite a bit, but Two titles point. It's the pricing on these guys and what they need to achieve for those prices. Anything can happen. They'll be in the pool and mix them in. But I am more Likely to go to Teddy Hurst and Tez Johnson down there. Even Kate Otton when we get to it next at tight end.

44:28

And in a lot of cases, that would be where I am just leaving that money because it's not really about the money. It's just if I only think one or two of them are going to perform. Then I want the ones that I think are going to do it and have me a chance to win the most money when doing it. So could see both those guys, Teddy Hurst and Tez Johnson, being in the mix.

44:44

I like where their price is at on the slate. And in a lot of cases, you are going to be leaving money on the table by doing it. So fits all my criteria. Hoop, what do you got at wide receiver? Yeah, now we're talking my language. Our guy Nick Cat, are we going to score more fantasy points than Igbuka and Godwin combined? I actually think there's a chance that that happens.

45:05

I know it's a hot take, but, like, I think Aubrey could get fifteen easily in this game, and those guys could get, like, seven and seven or seven and six. I think there's a legit chance that happens. That's, like, a good bet, though. I don't know what the odds would be on that. I mean, yeah, what would the odds be would be the question. Obviously, it's heavily in favor of – Title's the guy for this job. I mean, what's the math?

45:27

If you got them combined projected like seventeen and a half versus ten. Yeah. What do we got here? Minus seven and a half. So minus seven and a half favorite. Right. Are we thinking about this? Right. So that's like minus three hundred minus four hundred. Something in that range. Yeah. Actually, so pull up, what's the Texans? What are their win odds? They're minus what? They're minus seven and a half. Seven and a half are the Jags' favorite. Minus four hundred. Minus three forty-five.

45:52

Four to one. Yeah, four to one about. Seems fair. Seems fair. Okay. Does anybody want that?

45:57

I don't I don't either but I mean the receiving props thirty three and a half for Godwin like thirty two and it's just it's terrible at their price but again if if you play it when you win how much you win if you're on them today like don't let us not have you play it like I'm not gonna have zero maybe maybe I'll like five percent your lineup should all tell the story though but man it's it's tough yeah every time you don't play them though it goes to hoops point earlier with the bucky stuff it's like anytime you're not on them you're getting more of what you want in there and that's more towards what you're

46:28

Comfortable with and happy with how it pays out and all that type of thing so it really does it is a game right like we always talk about it's a puzzle and how you're putting it together it should make sense if you're not interested as much in those guys then you can allocate that somewhere else or to different build styles styles as well so Um, the thing is if Aubrey scores, I don't know, it'd be, what's that mean for the rest of the guys might still not matter to be honest.

46:50

It might be just fine. So yeah, we'll see how it goes. Yeah, not much more to add. Like on the Dallas side, Seedy, Pickens, Flournoy is just like in the class of his own in terms of like wide receivers threes in this league. There's not many like wide receiver threes that get as much action as this guy does. Like Title said, he's always on the field.

47:12

It's not like we see a lot of these guys that are always on the field and they're literally just out there. Running sprints and getting exercise. This guy gets targets four, six, eight, five, right? And he hasn't had the massive game, but he doesn't need the massive game. Like if you're playing him in flex, I mean, might need him just to get ten, eleven, twelve fantasy points.

47:32

And he's going to pop off for a massive game like title set at some point this season. This offense just passes way too much. So in Dak captain teams, I think he's a phenomenal, phenomenal play. And then one last random cheapie, Turpin as well. I'd include Turpin in my player pool. Dak, captain teams, twelve hundred dollars. He was he's out there like they and they run like gimmicky stuff for him, too, which is very important.

47:59

Like if he's on the field, it's probably some sort of gimmicky play and he could take it to the house. I love him as a full punt, you know, just going to be.

48:10

And I do think like ibuka and goblin have a chance to be even like higher owned than what we're showing because people are just gonna be able to to spend that money and there's not much in that range in terms of salary so they might just settle with those guys I mean we're showing twenty for ibuka twenty for Godwin it really could be like twenty five ish range or something like that and I I hope it's up there because I have no interest I'll definitely just uh take my chances on the cheapies uh hearst and tes Johnson And again, if you're building a team, we kind of talked about it at running back, but I think it's even more applicable here.

48:43

If you're building a team and you end up on Igbuka or you end up on Godwin, be all right just going down to Hurst or Tez Johnson and leaving that money on the table. Someone asked about the $50,000 like in Showdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Full explanation ↗, like if you're new to the show, like. They're never going to say that you have to spend all the salary. You can leave tons, like Tambo was saying, $10,000.

49:04

I mean, it's such a different such a different game than like the main slate where you're leaving a lot on the table. If you're leaving if you're leaving a lot of big chunks of salary on the table, you're probably leaving too much on the table and showdown totally different. So be OK making those pivots. But I like the cheapies here a ton. Yeah. Let's do a quick look ahead for Sunday. Cause the chat brought up a funny name there.

49:28

You know, your boy TeSlaa who right now, if you had to choose for Sunday in this Detroit, Arizona game, would you want, you can only pick one TeSlaa or born on the other side. I got to stick with my guy, TeSlaa. I think I just, yeah, TeSlaa. Okay. What about you title? Probably boring because I think Marv, like his snap shares continue to go down. And I think they're about to just pull the plug. So I'm going to, that's a good point.

49:57

They got to feature them because it's still annoying though, man. It's so not featuring. I'm not going to help him with anything that dude, literally anytime you put them on the field, his trade value goes down. Cause he doesn't try. So he had a nice touchdown last week. Didn't he? Yeah, he did have a touchdown. Didn't he do nothing after that touchdown? No, yeah. You can tell they forced it. They forced it to him early. They wanted to maybe get something going.

50:21

I will say, TeSlaa might have watched our show because right when you chirped on week two or whatever, you started doing something. Yeah, I did. He makes plays. Yeah, you didn't chirp him. You chirped his role. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying in general, like, the dude makes plays. Like, if you are an offensive coordinator, like, I'd be trying to get the guy the ball. Like, he can make difficult catches.

50:42

But for the main slit, though, it is annoying because this is the spot I've attacked all year, and it's worked out well. I just – that is going to be the most – probably the most popular spot of forever. I mean, it's like they're – the total in that game, I think, is like almost ten higher than anything else on the slate. Yep. And week five. So Jalen Daniels had to he has to come back. Jayden Daniels. Sorry, not Jalen. He's on Jalen Daniels.

51:08

But Jaden had to come back for for week five, his mom said, because he's number five. Right. Nobody else can have that. He's got to have full control. So we'll see how it goes. We'll get to that on Sunday, though. Let's go to tight end and title. I'll kick it over to you. The chat mentioned it. So we're not quite there yet. But Jake Ferguson looking tasty up top in the captain. What do you think about that comment?

51:26

And what are you doing here at the tight end position? I don't love it. I like Flournoy more than Ferguson for a good bit cheaper. And I very well might just play Dak, Javonte, Seedy, Pickens, Flournoy, and then maybe a little Daniels. I'm going to keep it more condensed. I'm fine with him in the flex. Kay Dotson looks good. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if he caught a little steam just because you have to play someone on the Buccaneers. And he's $4,400.

51:50

He pretty much has the same receiving prop. As Godwin and Ibuka for way less. So I like him. I'm a little worried with steam, but I'm going to play some. But after that, I mean, it's one of the worst tight end slates after that. Like no one really plays outside of Kate Otton on the Buccaneers. And then for the Cowboys, Spanford and Schoonmaker, but like they're like the fifteenth option when they're out there. Like I don't think one point eight's really enough.

52:14

Give me Tez Johnson, Hurst, Turpin when he's on the field, Sean Tucker, Goodson, like they – Tight end room's really weak, in my opinion. You're playing the starters. They're fine. I don't love it. I like Otton, but again, I'm worried that he does get a little steam. Yeah, I don't got any Instagram accounts to show off this week for tight end.

52:32

I can tell you that much, but this would be where I would say just to those earlier, and Hoop brought one up at wide receiver, and I'll go to tight end with him in a second, but with Turpin or the span forwards of the world, the Durham, those guys, that's where you'd see my Roster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Full explanation ↗ probably spend more money, right? If I'm bringing a one percenter, into the mix. It's like, maybe it is a forty nine five or forty nine six or something.

52:53

You'll just see that because I'm not as worried about it, obviously, when you're putting somebody that's just so low on. But also, remember, you get a zero out of those guys a lot of the time, too. So got to think about that when you're doing it and make it make sense, at least. But I'll go to you. Anything else to add a tight end between Otton and Ferguson or any thoughts there? It's just Ferguson, Otton, and I like Otton quite a bit.

53:17

Out of all the Tampa guys, just give me the cheapest guy. I guess I hope title's wrong in terms of the OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Full explanation ↗ coming up because all those guys are right. Now it seems pretty clear all those guys are going to be between like twenty and twenty five percent. Bucky, Godwin.

53:35

And Agbuka and Otton probably going to be right in that range and I hope that remains true because I mean he legitimately has like in my eyes similar fantasy output of all of them and he's much cheaper and again another way to to build some lineups and leave a lot of salary on the table where you're just taking out Bucky or you're taking out Agbuka and you're just putting in Otton like you see it all the time with these young quarterbacks like it's just been proven like Where are they looking?

54:04

Like, there's a reason why Godwin got a lot of attention because he's running those small little routes. Like, and the tight ends are right there, too. So, like, Otton, I think, is a phenomenal play on the slate. And I hope it remains right around. What do we have it at? We have it at twenty. It's probably more like twenty five. And I'm fine with that. Like, I think he's by far the best Tampa play on the slate when you factor everything into it.

54:29

Yeah, one thing I'll think about just conceptually on a slate like this and a game like this with the totals and that, Ferguson is usually involved in bigger big boy games. Like we saw when our man Rio almost won the Mills, like that was a big high scoring game.

54:42

So if that's the case, again, it could be a high scoring five one, I guess, you know, it can definitely get to that route with, you know, that type of route with the Buccaneers here. But I'm just noting it is like if people are loving him in the captain, they're saying all this stuff could work out. It's like then it would kind of be that or not as much.

54:56

For me, and I think there will be a lot of lineups, just looking at this, that have Ferguson and one of Hurst or Tez or something cheap on the other side. And if it's actually going to be that type of five-one, pretty much any lineup that has Ferguson in the flex with a cheap Tampa Bay receiver could be the setup where you have like a... Egbuka or an Otton or a Godwin and have Goodson in the lineup on the other side.

55:22

It would actually make more sense, to be honest, for a five-one, but that would be, what, one-fifth by the looks of it from ownership? That's just not going to be a popular combo. So the way you can kind of flip the build, Title even might like it with... You know, Ted Hurst and Goodson instead of the money to go up to Ibuka or Godwin.

55:38

And that's an example where you're leaving the money, but it's still, you're telling the story in a way that could probably make more sense as opposed to the other situation that people are looking at just to play it, to play it. Cause it's the big name they know and, and recognize and why not put them in there, right? I'm already on, um, Dak or I'm already on Javonte or something like that. So they just automatically put Ferguson in.

55:57

You could just flip the bill a little bit that way. So yeah, Not too much else for me to add there. Kickers and defense title to round it out. I mean, yeah, Aubrey got one of the biggest legs. I mean, man, last week it was, I mean, they trust this man so much. It was like a sixty two yarder that they they let him roll with to give the ball to the Houston with a decent amount of time.

56:18

It was like forty five seconds or it was a really ball. I remember that play. I was like, damn, I can't believe they're Bobby. Yeah. If he misses, it's just ten yards the other way for a fifty year for sure. Right before half, like very few coaches would ever do that. And I'm not saying he's dumb. I mean, that's the faith you have in the best kicker in the league. I mean, it didn't work out for him.

56:36

But yeah, if anyone is willing to make a play like that, I definitely have interest in Aubrey. I have a lot of interest in Cowboys defense. I mean, I don't think this Jalen Daniels guy's very good. He's a running quarterback. So sacks are going to be there. Turnovers are going to be there. Yeah, you can leave money from Godwin Igbuka, whatever, and play Cowboys defense. I wouldn't be surprised if they scored double digits today.

56:59

As far as the other side, I think McLaughlin's my least favorite just because if I do think they're down a lot early, like you're not going to kick field goals. You're going to need touchdowns and go for it on close decisions. Buccaneers defense. I mean, I guess they're eight percent on a $3,000 like it takes one play. So I guess I'll probably just be overweight. Naturally, I'm almost always overweight underdog defenses and it never works out.

57:22

But again, when it works out, it worked out like three years ago. It felt like like almost every single week hasn't really worked out as much lately. But with how bad the Buccaneers have been. I don't know. I guess I'll throw it to you. This, what do you think on five, one Cowboys builds with Buccaneers defense, just hoping it's like one play or, and like five points is enough because of their pricing.

57:43

I don't love the idea, but I'm trying to get a, I'm trying to get different than eight percent for, I mean, you have every chance they're going to be out there a ton. Like defenses can score points at any time during the game. It takes one place. So I'm going to play some, but McLaughlin's my least favorite for sure.

57:59

I think, again, it's two grand in the difference, so it's not really comparable for me, but I would say the Bucs are more Likely to kick field goals when they should definitely not be kicking field goals, that he could be the one that might be on a five-one with McLaughlin, and you can't spell his name without laughing, and we'll just be the ones laughing at them because they're kicking field goals when it's the dumbest spots.

58:20

I forget who the team was on Sunday, obviously under the weather, so I don't remember much, but it was like... Man, one team finally did it. They were going for it when they were supposed to and not doing stupid shit. And I was like, yeah, just lose big or play proper. That's how you should keep your job and do things right. Because it doesn't matter. Yeah, you're going to lose some games.

58:37

Like you said, we're going to have takes that are wrong and stuff like that. But you actually play the damn game properly and then see what happens. Don't play just safe and, oh, at least we put a few points on the board. It looks horrible. It looks worse. Yeah. Hoop, anything from you on these? There is like a running joke. I think it's definitely a rumor. The guy's like six, three, two hundred eighteen pounds.

58:57

But did you ever hear the joke on social media that Brandon Aubrey wears a size seven shoe? I can't imagine that's true. Jerry Jones doesn't want to extend them because they're not sure if the size seven is going to hold up. That's the rumor mill. Anyway, whoever size his foot is, it's clearly working for his current place of employment because it might be like big, tall. Yeah. Frame small foot. I just googled it and it does say seven. Really?

59:27

Six three with a sledgehammer of a right leg. Easier to square up the football with a smaller foot or something. Who knows? Might be his cheat code, man. That might be a thing. And don't kickers always wear tighter shoes, right? I think so. Like almost soccer cleats or something like that. Maybe he's really like an eight and a half or something. Where did you see that, Tambo? I know you're all over the web.

59:52

I was going to just do a joke, see how big his leg actually is, just to compare. Does he have a big leg or is he just a good kicker? But apparently they said this size seven is a real thing. That's wild. That is absolutely wild. The Cowboys fans know about that one. They'll probably come at me with the rumor mill and all that. Cowboys fans can't take a joke usually, but it's okay. We still love you. Same. I mean, always on Aubrey.

1:00:19

I mean, the dude's an absolute stud kicker. Anytime, like Title said, they're going to kick six in crunch time where you're fucked if he misses, like, sixty-two yarder. Like, sign me up for that. I mean, it's... That's a good one, Hurricane. I was thinking that, too. Easy hammer. Oh, shoot. That's good.

1:00:41

Uh um yeah just pull it up I mean the uh twelve eleven sixteen fantasy points last three games so he's uh he can put up the points and Good news is that Sample runs deep because Hoop just finished telling us we don't want to look at early season numbers too much or matchups, but for a kicker game log, anything goes. Anything goes, man. Give me a half a game Sample size.

1:01:05

We need Jordan to put out thirty scores, then you'll read every single number from him. Same thing, and I will definitely make sure to get some Cowboys defense in there. All right. What about FanDuel Hoop while you're looking at it here now? I see Kenny Gainwell goes up to $7,000. Yeah, that's a tough click. And the scoring does not fit him there at all. That's very difficult. Bucky at eleven to like Bucky Bucky's. My goodness.

1:01:33

Six hundred dollars cheaper than Dak, where I mean. Like on FanDuel, like it favors quarterbacks and devalues past catching running back. So just play Bucky at the MVP on FanDuel and just hope it goes your way. If you're doing it, just do it that way for sure. $11,200. I mean, man, that's a tough click for sure. You know, Chris Godwin probably a tough click over there just because he's going to get there by catching a bunch of passes. He's eight to Agbuka, eight, six.

1:02:03

Gainwell, $7,000. It's it's it's tough. I mean, again, my favorite is going to be Otton. And, you know, he's five point $8,000 for a five point two. I think it's a good play. Got some cheapies down there. The kickers are priced very fairly. Where's Dallas? So Dallas defense is right there with the kickers. So, yeah, it's like the running backs for Tampa. Very overpriced. Where is Tucker? Tucker's Tucker even $4,200. Forty two. Yeah. It's tough. Goodson's only thirty four over there.

1:02:35

If you want to play that angle and they say it could favor more if it is a blowout, he gets a touchdown late or something like that. It could really add up. But title, did you see anything else? Obviously, we called out some of the big boy like that, like Lamb goes $11,800 to $12,600 from DraftKings to FanDuel with $10,000 more to spend. Bucky goes $8,400 to eleven to that type of stuff's crazy.

1:02:55

Yeah it looks like a pretty similar slate for me where five one four two Cowboys will be really heavy the Buccaneers are gonna be LeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Full explanation ↗ I think the like schoonmakers at fourteen hundred mingos eighteen hundred maybe even span four $2,200 pain derm twelve like I think they're more in play like if all the studs really do something again I would wouldn't want to leave as much money when you are fully punting it there But Foley, Stars and ScrubsStars and scrubs is a DFS lineup structure where you spend heavily on several expensive players and fill other roster spots with low-salary players. The cheap players free up salary for the stars; they are not necessarily bad players.Compare the points you gain by upgrading to a star with the points you sacrifice at the cheap spot. Check whether both players still fit your lineup's scoring scenario.Full explanation ↗, I think, is a little more viable on FanDuel than DraftKings.

1:03:24

Just because, yeah, like, Sean Tucker, forty-two, Hurst, forty-eight, Flournoy, five. Like, these guys still have real prices in the mid-tier. So you can save three, $4,000, and that can go a long way. They're zero or one point. Like, if you're going, like, a CeeDee Lamb and a Payne Durham who gets you zero versus... I don't know, again, what the math is, but something like a Cade Ottman, Bucky Irving or something like Seedy by himself can outscore those guys.

1:03:50

So I think I'd be more willing to include full punts, even if you expect a zero. But again, don't leave $3,000 off of someone that will be on the field versus like hardly will as a one V one, but. That might be the only thing today, because just especially with the way you like the slate, it's like when you're over there, if you're not going to be on Igbuka at eighty six and Godwin at eighty two as much, I'm saying.

1:04:11

And with Bucky being a tough click, it's like you might not even need to go that low and you might be able to still fit a Tez Johnson or a Flournoy or something like that in with the little and still leave money because it's only $11,800. I mean, if you go up to the captain, I guess it gets a little bit more or MVP, I should say it's going to be. What would it be?

1:04:29

It's $40,000 for a Dak MVP with CDM Pickens, which let's just say people go that route. You do still have $20,000 left, though. And if you don't love the Tampa Bay side, you might not even have to do that. But definitely a really good point for FanDuel in general that people don't do enough over there. But that's how you get to the unique lineups. And sometimes you just need that extra stud if you can fit them in.

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And if you get anything out of your punt, even better, then you're in really good shape. So. All right. Any other final thoughts from your title before we get out of here? No, I mean, it's not really the most exciting game in the world. Like, I mean, big favorites. Like, everyone seems to be on the same thing. But, I mean, something for MMA. Like, I always love MMA and look at the odds. We just had a minus-$2,600 favorite lose, like, two weeks ago.

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Dude, rocked. Got rocked. Absolutely rocked. So right now, plus three eighty, the Buccaneers are on the money line. That's twenty percent chance to win. And if you've played poker, anything with odds like twenty percent is still there. One in five times the Buccaneers will win.

1:05:30

So everything that we've shit on and all this on the show, just know that in the back of your head, if you have four Buccaneers and two Cowboys or even three, three or whatever that way and you want to you don't agree with us. And our take, again, it sounds like all of us are more on the Leafs salary. Think the Buccaneers, like the twenty percent that people will play will be dead. All that.

1:05:49

You can take it the other approach when you just look at numbers. Buccaneers have a twenty percent chance to win this game, which, yeah, people will how we talk and how like I even am thinking and acting like it. It feels like it's like a five percent or ten percent. But books are very efficient on the numbers. So, yeah, I just wanted to mention that. But, yeah, good luck. Hoops over there loading up the Wong teasers early, starting with the Knight game.

1:06:12

He got a home favorite, just great spot. Run that thing down and just jam it with every other one on the main slate. Am I right, Hoop? Yeah, big-time implications for Survivor as well. I mean, I know a lot of people are going to be on Dallas, but we've seen this spot on Thursday.

1:06:25

People are hesitant to kind of go –

1:06:29

Super all in on these Thursday teams so the OwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Full explanation ↗ has been a little bit lower like we saw with the Packers uh a few weeks ago I lost a couple teams on that but it was Thursday night and I thought they'd be way more popular than they ended up being so I'm curious to see uh tonight on Dallas I mean this is clearly their best spot of the season I know a lot of people will be there I'm going to be playing some Dallas so see how that goes um but yeah excited to get where are we at week five it's it's moving so uh excited to to get week five started and um yeah we'll

1:06:59

Be back obviously Sunday morning main slate big main slate and a lot of talking points for that one we kind of touched on a little bit but Dallas Arizona I mean fifty five total the next closest is uh did I say Dallas yeah Detroit, Arizona. Your real team, Detroit. Yeah, yeah. Then my other team, uh, fifty-five total. Next closest is like nine points. So that's going to be a massive talking point for Sunday. So make sure, uh, to, to tune in Sunday morning.

1:07:29

Mrs. Hoop, man. She, she's the best, but Hoop's over there talking about the mistress and the wife. He's just dropping the Dallas in with the Detroit with the double whammy. So you got to be careful over there, Hoop. Come on. It's going to be a good slate though on Sunday. I know title will be back tomorrow for the Cash GameA cash game is a contest that pays a large share of the field, usually close to half, the same flat prize. Fifty-fifties, double-ups and head-to-heads are the common cash games.Treat cash games as the steady base of your bankroll. Use one safe core across your cash entries on a slate, and save riskier ideas for tournaments.Full explanation ↗ countdown. I'll be back Saturday with Blickle for leverage lane.

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