Panthers vs Packers NFL DFS Showdown | TNF Week 8 Showdown Shippers | Picks, Plays & Process

It's just a new interface across the board. Okay. I want to go to the showdownShowdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown stone, two point. Oh, boom. It's right there.

If you hand build a lineup, in the Stone 2.0 point oh or build one out optimize it save it whatever little more features coming through now you can sort by the newest the top projected you can download the csv and then upload it right across to your uh DraftKings entries or whatever it might be uh you can name it now if you want to save it for later and name it and do do all that so it's just a little bit more upgraded there but the big news want to shout out our girl nika this is phenomenal stuff so last night She turned five dollars into a hundred thousand dollars.

She said she fell asleep, woke back up, didn't go back to sleep for the rest of the night. Nika is a member over at Ship It Nation. She's been with DFS Mastermind since pretty much day one. She's even done an NBA DFS process breakdown course over at DFS Mastermind. So you guys are over there. But after Rick getting the seventy $5,000 shipper and her getting $100,000, Rick gave away a main event ticket to this week. So we have a winner this week.

He's going to be playing the fifteen hundred dollar ticket in the main event on DraftKings. Talk about this all the time. Sight's not really giving away much these days. Most of them are trying to make as much money as possible off their community. We're giving $50,000 plus back in cash and prizes with Ship It Games and our partners over at SaberSim. But this week, Nika winning last night in the Golden Shipper.

So if you're an all access or NFL only member, She has added five cash prizes. She's given away $3,000 of her $100,000. You just unheard of. That's so generous. And Nika, we appreciate you so much. The winner of the Golden Shipper, the top three will get the Golden Shipper tickets as usual. The winner will get an additional thousand dollars cash prize. Second, eight hundred. Third, six hundred. Fourth is going to be four hundred and down to two hundred for fifth place.

So $3,000 total. So shout out to Nika. Just some amazing stuff. You want to go over on my ex account. You can show her some love there. She won the $100,000. She talked about it. Like I said, said she didn't really sleep after the fact. If you go to DFS Mastermind and you're a member, you can find her course under the sports NBA section. You can see she broke it all down here.

It was about an hour and a half that she went through. And then if you guys are playing NBA, just so you guys know right now on the Ship It Nation X account, if you ever need help with late swaps, so many people say they don't have a process. You can go check out our pinned post over there. The article for late swapLate SwapIn NFL contests with late swap, you can change unlocked afternoon or evening players after earlier games begin. Only games included in that contest's player pool are available.Before the first games lock, identify affordable backup combinations for your later players. Check that each combination fits the open positions, then confirm your saved changes in every affected entry.Read the full definition of Late Swap is live as well. But Hooser, got to bring you in, man.

A lot of stuff going on over at the Nation. Another fun slateSlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate ahead. What's going on with you, my friend? How you doing? Yeah, doing well. Congrats, Nika. And then that's awesome, the give back stuff. Like I said, people nowadays aren't giving away money like that. When it gets in their pocket, it's not going back out, especially in a giving manner. So very cool to see, very cool to see small amounts of money turn into massive amounts. So congratulations to her.

In terms of this game, it's definitely a good one. I mean, you got... Relatively high total close spread and two offenses that have had success this season and two offenses that have a lot of different pieces the passing game has been effective uh for both sides and you know the running games as well and then the Packers running game is getting a boost with Josh Jacobs back he looked fine and very active in the passing attack so it's a very fun game for fantasy purposes.

Like if this was on the main slate, it would be a popular game, right? Like a lot of people would come here, stack it up, play it in a variety of ways. We get it in showdown format, and it's going to be fun because there's a lot of different ways to build, a lot of different potential captains. So we'll talk through it all like we always do and see where we land. Yeah, get more of a grand scheme over here for me in a second.

I want to just bring you in there. But title, going to you, like I said, an exciting time, right? The chat's already talking about it. We've got some Discord favorites. Our man Wardo, you think back to the NBA season ending last year. He was a very passionate fan, got to say it that way. But shout out to Wardo, and he got his Knicks across the line. But you got yourself, Nades. I'm thinking about new wins. There's a lot of people in the Discord.

I'm forgetting people, obviously. Donnie Draper. There's a bunch of different people that obviously were fired up For these Brewers, where does this one rate out for you, my friend? And then obviously excitement tonight and getting to go to this game. But talk to me, man. Brewers got the job done. How are you feeling? Yeah, no, it was really cool for sure. I will admit, I mean, I've been blessed. I saw Rodgers beat the Steelers.

I saw Giannis drop his nutsack on the Suns. And I saw the Brewers. The Brewers is the third for me. There's no doubt about that. Bucks, I was down at the Deer District. That was in my prime every single game. So that was number one for sure. I remember. I remember a title in Deer District. How many years ago was that? Man, what? They won in twenty twenty. I want to say it was so that twenty twenty was maybe before.

Yeah, we're doing shows at the previous spot. You're like, I got it. As soon as the show's over, I'm going to come here. I'm going to Deer District. Yeah. Yeah. I was there every single that was the prime for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, great times. That was number one for me. Packers, I love always Packers. Titletown, I'm heading to Titletown. So that was number two, seeing Rodgers do it. And yeah, really cool to see the Brewers.

I mean, it was almost never a sweat, though, with this team. I saw Rasmussen. Say it's the best team he's been in the big leagues for seven years, the best team he's ever seen play. And it's just really impressive. But the name talent, you see the Dodgers and all this, they don't have the name talent, but playing the right way and playing all phases of the game really means a lot. So yeah, really cool to see.

I mean, definitely outside of like where I'm at the suburbs and stuff, the this is the biggest thing like the oldies love baseball they could care less about the NBA and all that like the community wise and that by far my father-in-law everything they this is number one for most people still love it over here I'm happy uh yeah headed to the game pumped about that but hey I know someone who's having a better day and that's nika so shout out to nika very

Very generous too but did you say five dollars like she single bulleted that no I don't think she's but it's like the idea regardless they're saying like hey can you turn like yeah thousands of dollars to do this you don't and that's why she wanted she was gonna give away seven fifty to five different people and then she just said let's just make it like a running tier so there's still some competition juices flowing but yeah I think I think she maxed it I don't know for sure in front of me I could find it but yeah regardless seven fifty or five in $100,000 I mean yeah that's uh That's quite the run.

So shout out to Nico. Great, great team. I mean, less than one percent Aaron Gordon. It was designed beautifully for a flagship contest like that. So, yeah, very well deserved. Yeah, Curry was in there too, I think, at low ownershipOwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership. He had a nice six to nine points or something like that last night. So yeah, pretty incredible stuff. But like Hoop said, people hang on to their money.

Most of these companies and these other sites that you're up against, I mean, they're charging way more than we charge and they're not giving anything back, right? They're trying to keep it all in their pockets. So we're trying to give back. It's a really cool community to be a part of. Now that's Nika's $3,000, Rick's fifteen hundred dollar ticket, Shark's $4,900, basically $5,000 he gave back to the pool.

And then, of course, the overall $45,000 plus with Sharks money now $50,000 to make that we're giving back. So I think it's been just an incredible run for the community. If you guys aren't a part of it, go to ShipItNation.com and check it out. What did they say to you about the, the brew crew? And I'm just going back here. Somebody else said something, how it's done. You talked about how it's stacked up with baseball, but I'm still an incredible thing.

That game four was wild, right? I know last night was everything, but the fact that game four, you're like, oh man, and when it's in the twelfth and somebody hits a home run, hope you're a baseball guy. We're coming back to you for the grand scheme overview. When that happens, I know that it still can happen. There's still a whole bottom of an inning to play.

But when you're watching that whole game and it's tied and then your dude hits that homer, you're like, oh, man, this might be it. And then for it to turn around, and I can just remember from cheering for the Jays last year, like that shot when Pajas jumps over Hernandez and you're like... That was it like everything. And the Kirk at home, like every move, it feels like this is about to be it.

And so just some incredible stuff to get there. I think like title said, it was probably inevitable, but took an extra game. We got one more out of them, more DFS action for people as well, but anything else to add on this stuff? If not, we started early so we could get through this stuff and then get to the game. But anything else you want to add? Yeah.

I mean, at this point in baseball, it's like anyone, but the Yankees and Dodgers, like everyone, everyone's rooting for.

So it was nice to see a team that, uh like Milwaukee who appears to have done it the right way and not the you know the bullshit path that the dodgers have been taking it's cool to see it's good for the sport and hopefully it's enough to avoid a lockout for for next year I guess that's the main takeaway um but I mean overall I guess it was you know title kind of alluded to it kind of anti-climatic I mean it was really good if you were a brewers fan obviously but from just like an entertainment standpoint like the Brewers were always winning this from the beginning.

And obviously, they won. Rays got that one game. And then Brewers said, all right, yeah, we'll put you back in the timeout chair in the corner. And that's what they did last night. Last year's was way better. Yeah, it wasn't even close. Like, last year's was as good as it gets. But, yeah, as a Brewer fan, it was fun. But baseball fan, not really. Last year's, because of Hoops Point, though, everyone was just rooting against the Dodgers. Against the Dodgers, yeah.

But just how crazy the series was and, like, the biggest – like, it was just back and forth a great series. It was crazy, for sure. Yeah, I looked it up. So we, we use DFSOS.com. We posted about it yesterday as well. Obviously someone we're partnered with, you can use code ship it over there. But if you go here and you could go under the slateSlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate review and then I pulled it and PhD underscore Aggie, you can open it up.

I just opened it up in another tab, but she had the hundred and fifty lineups. It looks like if you go down and see, it's like the next closest lineup was three thirty one. It's just that one bullet is all it takes. Maybe you got to get that thing across the line. You said it's Stepp Curry, one point four percent owned, sixty nine points. And then you had who's the other one? So, yeah, Aaron Gordon, point six percent ownership, almost forty there.

So, again, congrats to Nika. Shout out to her. This is awesome. Who anything else you forgot earlier with the grand scheme overview? Let's hop into this game. We've got a really good one here, like you said. Yeah, it's, you know, previously just kind of laying out the game and I guess the excitement for it from a DFS perspective. And when you start kind of digging into it, it's really good just because there's so many different ways this game can go.

Like I talked about, like both teams have had success passing the ball. Both teams now have very competent running backs as well. Both teams have multiple pass catchers that they can go to if looking to pass.

I guess the one main thing though on this, and I, I'm not a hundred percent what's the what's the deal with Golden at this point is he playing or is it true yeah he's a he's expected to play that's what I thought yeah so we're gonna go under the assumption that he's gonna be uh yeah

So it looks like he'll be good to go so you know that makes it even more appealing because if he was out then you'd see like uh Watson and Tucker Kraft get huge boost in terms of ownershipOwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership there's just so many guys now that uh you know Jordan Love can potentially go to so I guess the main point for me is a lot of appealing captain options in in this game like there's a ton both quarterbacks have the ceiling both running backs Jacobs and Hubbard have the ceiling to get there multiple pass catchers on both sides that can get there, including Tucker Kraft as a tight end.

So there's just a lot of different ways to go in the captain spotShowdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown, and obviously that means a lot of different plays in the flux. I assume ownership gets – pretty spread out. So it's a slateSlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate where you don't need to worry about it all that much. Just looking at the captain, the highest captain we have is right around fifteen percent. That's beautiful. I mean, that's absolutely beautiful if that holds true. And I think it does just because there is so many options.

We're showing Jordan Love as the highest owned captain and Probably right. And he has a path to get there. I mean, there's a very nice path for him to get there and it's spreading it out. He has Christian Watson. He has Matthews Golden. He has Tucker Kraft. And as you saw last game, he has Josh Jacobs in the, in the passing game. He threw the ball to him seven times last game. I mean, Jacobs was way more effective in the passing game opposed to the running game.

So, you know, it, for the grand scheme overview, it's fun. It's a fun game and there's a ton of different ways to go and ownership is going to be spread out. And it's, I'm excited for this one. Yeah. It's, it's usually, you know, not been the case. I guess the, the way I would say a title is like all season long, we've seen where people say in these showdown sites, well, we've had some unique shippers up top.

We've seen a $500,000 two $50,000 a couple of $200,000's where it's two way chop just the other day and all of that. It's like, for the most part, you've seen a chalkier builds that are getting, you've seen a lot of the big chops too. On this slate, I don't know. We'll have to wait and see.

But I don't know if I remember us ever looking at the stone and saying there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, almost nine potential captains that are kind of spread out where you're like, hey, it could be those. And then to Hoop's point, the ownership is like, besides Jordan Love, not really going anywhere. And like he said, with Jordan Love, and you'll get to your captains in a second, I'll let you finish out your thoughts if you have anything else to add.

But the, you know, Savion Williams is also there. So like Love does have a bunch of options and with Jacobs back. The other side, we think, It's a little tighter. But then Darden Waller, the baller, is catching the touchdown. Oh, wait, no, it's Tommy Tremble time. And you see him coming in. But for the most part, I think a lot of people are hoping it's Tet and Jalen Coker.

The one thing I'll say about the Jalen Coker thing that this reminds me of, it won't be the same by any means. But remember Parker Washington let everybody down and then went to the international game on the Sunday morning on the showdown slate. The only way you could play him was that slate. And he just crushed it. Well, I think people know that tonight, but obviously Jalen Coker, everybody loved him last week.

And now, you know, he's sitting here again at just $11,700 in the captain. So we'll talk about that when we get there. Anything else you want to add on this game firsthand? You'll be there. Yeah, no, I mean, two teams coming off really bad losses. The Panthers, I mean, a really, really bad loss. They weren't in it from the jump. Buccaneers destroyed them. And for the Packers, just a game that was back and forth, but LeFleur coached like a donkey.

And just a couple miscues where they lost to the Lions. And I'm almost looking at this as a must-win game for the Packers in a very good division. Yeah. Pretty hard schedule remaining as well. So both teams are going to come out with their best effort. But I totally agree with you when it comes to captains and how spread out it's going to be. But Jordan Love, he has so many ways to go, whereas Bryce Young doesn't.

But the ownership seems pretty similar for them at captain, or at least ten percent Bryce Young. So that's where I'm initially at. And I think of all the guys in the double digits or I guess TET $8,000 or Golden seven and above, cause they're all getting pretty similar.

Bryce Young is most definitely my least favorite just because I'm telling myself if he has a massive game, it's going to just be Coker or TET or both of them together, but hoping one of them is the one that completely nukes the slate.

So on a slate that it's pretty difficult for me to, um, to like ex-captains out or get away from uh some of these more popular ones it's Bryce Young that's the least favorite for me uh speaking of uh I wanted to bring up that last uh Monday night game one five with the wide receiver on the on the Eagles side I mean how how crazy but it makes sense when you're that cheap as a wide receiver one like I'm not gonna on the bill by any means you could you could tell a story and they did The thing about it though is I'm not shitting on the build ever.

We always talk about when somebody wins, they win and it won for $200,000. So that's what, what stood out was that how much it won for with that ownership, right? Like to me is that it was also got away with it, but the stats were posted.

I think, um, what's Cody that for the ETR guy that posts all the showdown showdown stuff, Cody main, he probably, I think it was point six percent since $2,000 twenty or something in showdown that a one five wins a lottery. I feel like it has to be like a cheap captain like that. And because of the skill position, I don't know. I mean, that's the whole point. It's so hard for a one five to win.

So anybody out there is thinking like, oh, I'm going to do that tonight or I'm going to do that all the time now because of it. It's like a, it's a point five basically in a hundred. It just doesn't happen very often in lottery fields. Any of the back testing I've done and research and everything alongside of that, like you'll see Mark Lovin use it in a ten man.

Or something because that's a unique way to do it no one else is going to do it and if it gets there in a ten man by all means but when you go to the bigger stakes stuff really like anything higher than two hundred typically from what I've seen those you know those top players using it for it's hard to get it there because there's just so many combinations and you see the train that was sitting right behind it needed almost a a perfect storm, but shout out to them.

$200,000 for that lineup. It was pretty awesome to see. And you never know. Right. That's the thing about these showdown slates. And I think tonight's going to be very similar to not saying one five, but you never know. So I'll stay with you title on these captains. The one that first stood out to me and look, everything's baked in. We talk about this all the time, but I can also bake my own stuff in like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

It's like I think Josh Jacobs is stands out and maybe he gets late steam, but the fact that he is right off of Jordan Love, he's got the great matchup to go against. A lot of what's priced in is like, look, we also believe the sports books. You've got the prop up. I don't even think he has a sixty yard prop on the ground or maybe it's like seventy eight with receiving and who said it earlier like he's getting receiving.

He's getting everything, but they didn't stop using him last week. Like it was, there was no like just off the list, let's ease them in or anything like that. So to me, I think it's somewhat interesting that he's kind of just sitting there at ten percent and $13,200 in the captain. So give me your thoughts on him and then take us through some of the others and how you want to handle this.

Yeah, he's the most Likely to score in the game at minus one forty five. Could see a little late steam, like you're saying. I don't mind it at all. It leverages off the like Jordan Love, Watson, Golden. A lot of the Packers are getting ownershipOwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership. So if he rushes to win, that lowers their chance to get there. I think my favorite to the field is, I think I prefer these Panthers a little more.

And Chubb is the one that I have quite a bit of interest in. Again, I think he, I think he moonwalks back. I think people want to go mainly Panthers or want to go mainly Packers. If they go Panthers, it's probably Tet or Coker. And like, if they get it done, it's three and a half point dogs controlling the game. Like, I think that's a way that you can have a lot.

If there is a less than five dupes, less than ten dupes, the Panthers, Running back on an underdog on the road team, I think he has a lot of chance to get squeezed. So Chuba's the one at $9,000 that I have quite a bit interest. He's the second best prop to score on the slateSlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate at minus one fifteen. So I think he is my favorite. And then I'm going to say Tet. And then I'm going to say Christian Watson. And that's.

I don't know. I think Golden – Golden's looked like the wide receiver one in the past two weeks. There's no doubt. But I guess I am a little worried about – I'm not worried about the injury, but the lack of practice as much. I think Watson is the one that can get going this week and maybe has more of the downfield opportunity. Again, I'm guessing. I totally do not know. I think this is one of the harder showdownShowdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown slates to really pinpoint.

And that's good when you're making a lot of teams like I am. I'm playing all these guys. Who am I not playing?

I don't know I'm playing I'm playing them all Bryce Young's my least favorite for sure I think I'm going to be underweight Jordan Love captain as well just because I think there's enough of these goldens uh tets Jacobs chubas that they all have two plus touch on upside individually and if they do that I'd expect them to outscore quarterback even if they threw three or four touchdowns mainly since they're not known for being runners so I'm under on the quarterbacks I'm over on the skill position people Tet, Chubb, Watson, I think are my favorites.

Then I'd go Josh Jacobs, and then it'd be Coke or Golden is how I'm seeing it. But I'm building my teams right now, and I'm going to submit them, which I never do because I'm not expecting any of this late stuff. So I'm all ears, and I'm going to be listening as you guys talk as well and making adjustments. Taking an extra risk tonight. You know, he's feeling good off the last night. Let me kick it over to you.

Cause the most interesting thing is obviously to title's point is it's not often you get, we see all these different teams on here, but it's not often you get like the McMillan versus Coker decision and the, and the Watson and Golden decision. Now I know the Golden stuff comes with a little bit of, you know, Q tag coming in and all that.

But like, if he's out there, you got to kind of assume that, for now at least, and then go from there and still risk it. But it is hard for this slate because of that. And you got Bryce Young versus Jordan. Look, could be either. We think it's a close game and back and forth. So how are you handling the captain position tonight? What are your thoughts up top here? So I'll say this is a much easier slate if you're, building multiple teams.

Like if you're playing a hundred and fifty, it's much easier to determine what you're going to do because you're probably going to get exposure to all the main players in this game.

Like if like this is a slip for me, if you're someone that usually plays like one twenty dollar lineup, I would want to go down and play seven three dollar lineups or something I want different exposure like this is really hard to pinpoint exactly what you want a lot of different things could happen in this game like a lot of different things in terms of the way these teams score they have quarterbacks that are very good but they'll both run a little bit you have two running backs that can run and catch you have multiple pass catchers on both sides a really good point that title brought up earlier random tight ends on the Panthers side in

Waller I think it was title that brought that up waller you might have tambo like waller yeah yeah tambo waller Tremble you just so many random things that could happen in this game you want to play a lot of lineups so you know we're people that are playing a lot of lineups so then you're kind of going through and saying who do I want to be overweight on who am I okay if I'm underweightUnderweightYou are underweight in DFS when a player, team stack or lineup combination appears in a smaller percentage of your entries than in the contest field's entries.Compare the same contest, format and roster slot. Use projected ownership before lock, then check actual ownership afterward to see whether your intended underweight stance held.Read the full definition of Underweight on my favorites are by far the pass catchers for the Packers like when you have a quarterback that is consistently just dropping back and trying to throw bombs, which is what Jordan Love is trying to do very frequently throughout these games.

He's been doing it all season. It's not going to stop now. That's ideal for fantasy. You want the guys on the receiving ends of those bombs, and it's Christian Watson and it's Matthews Golden. Those are my two favorite. Christian Watson, for sure. I really like Watson up top. I think he's a phenomenal play. And then with Golden – I think the nice thing is he has that Q tag, and I think the ownership comes down on him up top, and he's had some bad drops.

I know our guy Nades has been all over Golden. He's had some very bad drops, but he's getting the opportunity, though. In DFS, it's opportunity over production a lot of times. You want those opportunities. He's going to continue to get those opportunities down the field, so those are my two favorites. I think we have Matthews Golden at seven ownership.

It's basically industry standard I wouldn't be surprised if it's closer to five and if that's the case I really like him up top so those are my two and then after that I am going to go to Jacobs like you got the you have the the guy most Likely to score a touchdown in this game and also is coming off a game where he got seven targets in the the passing game like

That's that's huge and I do think at the end of the day because he is priced a little bit cheaper too like he's only $8,800 I do think he could he does have a chance to come up a little bit in ownership so that is the one concerning thing but it's not to a point where none of these guys are going to get to a point where you have to change your approach because of ownership it just has to get spread out with so many different options um you know I do like Jordan Love just because so many different guys, he's got both.

He's got the running back. He's got the wide receivers and he's got Tucker Kraft that he'll throw the ball to. So if you play love up top, I think I actually, if, if you are playing love up top, I think the best move is to play them with two pass catchers. Cause you almost need it. Like, and I don't think you need to like set a hard and fast rule because like we just talked about, anything can happen in these showdowns.

But if you are hand-building a Jordan Love team, I'd prefer him with two pass catchers or one pass catcher and Josh Jacobs. I want him with two of those four guys. Or save down Williams. Let me add that in there as well. Save down Williams is a great play too. So you have five different guys. I want two of those five if playing Love. It's a two-plus rule you're talking about. You're putting Jacobs, Watson, Golden, Williams, Kraft and saying at least two.

Yeah, but again, I don't want to set a hard and fast rule because anything can happen. If he rushes one in, it goes out the window. That's not needed. As we see in a showdown, setting these hard rules, you can kind of get screwed. I don't necessarily say you have to do that, but that would be my preference if building Jordan Love's teams. I want two pass catchers with him, and one could be Josh Jacobs. Two of those five.

It is interesting, though, because you know, it's easier to make the case for the Packers guys, but the, uh, Panthers guys are getting quite a bit of ownership up top. You know, we're showing Hubbard, you know, we're showing four of the, the six highest tone captains being Panthers guys. Uh, I do think it might balance out and it could shuffle a little bit, but if looking at the, the Panthers, my favorites by far, Ted McMillan, uh, he's a, he's a stud, I think.

So I'd like him, um, uh, I guess at the end of the day, I'm probably going to be higher on the Packers guys. And I hope the ownership kind of stays where it's at with Watson being down there a little bit. And I think Golden will come down and I'd be fine with Tucker Kraft up there too.

So it's a slate where I think you want a lot of lineups because it is hard to just say, I'm X-ing out this guy or I'm going to get zero this guy because there's, in my estimation, maybe like ten guys that could be the highest scoring guy on the slate. So you want a lot of lineups if you can do it tonight. Yeah. Let me ask you this title. Then I'll give some final thoughts on it.

Cause yeah, I've got a few different things here, but just to note it, I, you know, I said it, you agreed with it right away. So I think this one's for certain, like we were talking about captain steam tonight, which is kind of more important for those like when you're playing a lot of captains, like most people are looking at these guys and say, no one really knows. So I'm spreading it out. I'll talk more on that in a second with my process.

But when you're saying, okay, like agreeing with me and I think we're right that Jacobs could steam up here. Okay. That makes sense. But then Love maybe stays the same. I think he's kind of the one that stays the same. I think any like Golden could come down slightly and add that to Watson. Like people like Watson.

But don't you think like it's going to be on the other side that people feel a little bit safer with where you could see maybe McMillan or Coker just come up a little bit because they're the underdog. Plus no Golden cue tag to worry about, even though he's playing. It's like people will look at it that way. So where do you see the steam coming here and any moonwalking? I'm curious if you have thoughts on that.

Yeah, I think Bryce might moonwalk for the sense of it's either Tet or Coker if he gets there. I do think Tet and Tet for sure I think steams a bit. Coker probably stays about there. I think Chubb comes back. Again, the underdog on the road running back. I just think similar price tags like Josh Jacobs is two hundred cheaper. He could be fifteen percent or something. I do think love stays where he's at.

And I do think Watson probably goes up to maybe even eleven or twelve percent. So I got Bryce Young moonwalking. I got Chubb moonwalking, Tet Steam, Jacobs Steam, Watson Steam a little bit. Yeah, those are the main ones, I think. And the good news, like Hoop always talks about, this is going to be spread out. The steam is only taking them up a small number. So you're going to be able to get a ton of coverage that you want.

But the reason I look at that, and I spend a little bit more time maybe than some others on it, maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong. Again, this stuff matters nothing to me, even though it's a great stat. Nothing against you. I think it's awesome. Carolina runs high this. Watson gets targeted a bunch on that. We all know Christian Watts could have a good game. That's kind of baked in there.

But the reason I'm looking at these little things is because like Coker, for example, I just don't see where it's him. Like the reason I see the Tets team. And even when you said Bryce Young comes back a bit, it's also correlatedCorrelationCorrelation describes how two players' fantasy scores move together. Positively correlated players tend to have big games at the same time, usually because one player's success directly adds points for the other.When you build a tournament lineup, ask which of your players need the same thing to happen. The more of them that do, the higher your lineup's ceiling.Read the full definition of Correlation. If it's coming back on Bryce a little bit, you know, $14,400, $14,100. It's you get a little bit of money. You get the underdog receiver, the opposite receiver of Watson and those guys, the big boy over there.

That could be the thing. But everybody just wanted Coker last week. He's $11,700. He'll at least set you up in a little bit of a different zone. So he's one that stood out to me. Jacobs. I'm with you guys on the Watson, not necessarily because of that stat, but I think it is somewhat interesting. But for me personally, There's not much you can do at captain, even with a full portfolio.

The way I'm going to be looking to get different is through roster constructionRoster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Read the full definition of Roster Construction. Because if I only have, if I have the same, you know, if Watson steams to ten and I end up with twelve and thought I was getting overweight, I'm technically still two percent overweight because I'm shifting it to other captains.

But I'm hoping that there's a lot of bad Watson lineups and that mine are all built in a way that's going to be a way that you could actually ship with less unique, more uniques, less dupesDuplicate LineupsDuplicate lineups are entries in the same DFS contest with identical player selections and scoring assignments, including any multiplier positions. In standard cash-prize tournaments, these entries tie and share the combined prizes for the places they occupy.Use the actual prize table to calculate your payout in a first-place tie with two, five or ten entries. Compare those outcomes before choosing between similarly strong builds.Read the full definition of Duplicate Lineups, things like that. So I'm not going to be able to get that different that way. But I think we will see more people on the Packers side here because of the home favorite, the team totalTeam TotalIn NFL DFS, a team total estimates one team's points, usually from the game total and point spread. It includes scoring by the whole team, not just offensive touchdowns or fantasy production.Recheck team totals after major news, then ask which players actually benefit. If your projections already reflect the change, avoid adding another automatic boost.Read the full definition of Team Total, all those factors. And even if you remove Golden, people are making a case for Kraft.

You look at the kickers and the Ds, they're both higher owned than the Panthers. That just tells me more four twos and then even possibly some five ones. Not like that's ever a big number. But I do think because it's a little, I feel like it's actually more of a tight target treeTarget ShareTarget share is the percentage of a team's targets (passes thrown toward an intended receiver) that go to one player. A receiver who sees 8 of his team's 32 targets has a 25 percent target share.Judge target share over the last three or four games, not the full season, especially after a trade, an injury or a quarterback change. The most recent role is the one you are paying for.Read the full definition of Target Share. Outside of the argument we made about Waller and Tremble, it kind of is like Bryce, Tet, Coker, or somehow it's Hubbard.

But also if it's not a Hubbard game, then you don't even need him in the mix like Josh Jacobs is on the other side. So when you're building those lineups, I think you could do two fours. You could do like a Watson, Love, for Panthers, Watson and the captain. You can do some four, two, five, one Panthers using Jacobs for the majority play, hoping that it's a Jacobs on the ground, all him and not those receivers and have to pick from it.

So I'm really going to be focused a lot more tonight on roster construction, thinking about what the field's up to and how we can exploit that more than trying to like tommy trembles the dream captain tonight to get you out of the you're the bottom of the board like I don't think anybody has that in their bag or can tell you that for this slateSlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate so hopefully that was helpful we'll move on though hoop we'll just go to the quarterbacks in the flexFlex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL we're still seeing love a ton

Obviously and still we're actually seeing flex leverageLeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Read the full definition of Leverage like you can't get enough of them in there which kind of speaks to the story of like when you're not using them up top he makes sense there you don't see the same thing fully on Bryce Young on the other side, which leads into some different conversations. Where are you at here on these quarterbacks in the flex spotsFlex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL?

Yeah, I mean, it's like you definitely want the quarterbacks to talk about it all the time. They get to touch the ball more than any other position, all that sort of thing. If you're playing... Christian Watson or Golden up top, you're probably going to want Love in the flex if you're playing Tett or Coker up top. You're going to want Bryce Young in the flex, that sort of thing.

I think the important part, like you said, it's more about the roster constructionRoster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Read the full definition of Roster Construction tonight than anything. That's always the case, but I think even more so today that that should be making your flex decisions, how your lineups correlateCorrelationCorrelation describes how two players' fantasy scores move together. Positively correlated players tend to have big games at the same time, usually because one player's success directly adds points for the other.When you build a tournament lineup, ask which of your players need the same thing to happen. The more of them that do, the higher your lineup's ceiling.Read the full definition of Correlation and that sort of thing. There's nothing really to add to either of the quarterbacks. Strong flex plays for both Title, do you got anything to add on those guys or any other ways you're thinking about using them? Like I said, I mentioned the two fours earlier.

I like those for both sides, like just price in the flex with one of his dudes up top and a bunch of and a bunch of Packers or the other side, just Golden or just Watson up top with love in the flex and then using for Panthers, things like that. Is there anything else you're seeing here? Not really.

Like when I'm playing Love, even in the flex, I still want, even if I don't have one of his pass catchers at captain, I still probably want at least one of his receivers in the flex. And then Bryce Young, probably the same, but I guess not as strong. But yeah, I mean, you can have a Bryce Young in the flex and still have Chubut captain and then use Tremble or Waller.

He doesn't have to be necessarily Coker or Tet, but it is just so much more condensed over there because the wide receiver three is a lot worse. Yeah, I was trying to look, too, as we segue into running back, who I'll go to you. But you brought this up for one team. I think it was the Saints a couple of weeks ago.

And just looking back at, you know, the you know, someone I think was new ones in the chat was talking about our DVPDefense vs Position (DvP)In NFL DFS, DvP groups production allowed to quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers or tight ends. Running back production includes rushing and receiving, while quarterback production can include rushing as well as passing.Before comparing ranks, check which end means the easiest matchup and whether the table reports totals, points per game or production per opportunity.Read the full definition of Defense vs Position rankings and looking at how the Panthers have got crushed on the ground. And so obviously that helps Jacobs and et cetera, et cetera. But if you go back and look like I'm just trying to see here, what was it? So it was Swift. And my nun guy, it was Bijan. I don't know. Again, that was a thirty four to three game.

The Panthers crushed him. But then you had Gibbs. You had maybe it's Barkley. You had Bucky Irving last week. I don't know what you think about this, but where do you sit out here with the Jacobs conversation and then take us into Hubbard on the other side and any of the peer strongs of the world, that type of thing?

Yeah, it's always tough with the DVP, especially, you know, six, seven weeks into the season because a couple matchups or if you play three of the five best running backs in the league, it's going to look like way worse than it really is. And, you know, I always say with this sort of thing, It's like you can't get super picky here on a showdownShowdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown slate because there's just not an option.

You almost have to throw a lot of that stuff out of the window when considering plays. For this slateSlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate, at the running back position, it is difficult because you've got Hubbard, you have Jacobs. Whenever there's a slate that's really strong with all these position players, we're going to be lacking value, and that is obviously the case today.

So the valueValueValue is the fantasy production you expect from a player relative to his salary. A value play offers more production or upside than his price suggests, whether he is cheap or expensive.Identify why the salary looks wrong: workload, matchup, scoring ability or a pricing error. Then check whether that reason still holds when you submit your lineup.Read the full definition of Value – you have to expand out how comfortable you are with these value plays you have to make some concessions because there's just not going to be a lot of solid value on the slate we know Hubbard's solid play we know jacob's solid play and honestly both their prices are very fair for flux like uh Hubbard at $9,000 and jacob's eighty eight like they're both fair plays but then you start to look at some of these secondary plays Marshall Lloyd, Trevor, ETN, probably have to include these guys in your player poolPlayer PoolA player pool is the set of players you consider using in your DFS lineups for a slate, the games or events included in a contest. The term can also mean everyone available to select in that contest.Keep a replacement beside each uncertain player, noting the salary and position you need. Recheck those alternatives when news changes so your shortlist still produces usable lineups.Read the full definition of Player Pool tonight just because we don't have a lot of strong options.

Lloyd got six carries and two targets. His workload is probably going to continue to get reduced tonight. As Josh Jacobs gets bumped up. So it is hard to play these guys, but it's also hard to fully take them out of your player pool if you're building multiple lineupsMulti-EntryMulti-entry means entering more than one lineup into the same contest. A contest's entry limit, such as 3, 20 or 150, sets how many lineups one user can submit.Set your total spend for the slate first, then divide it into entries. Multi-entry should spread a fixed budget across more outcomes, not raise how much you put at risk.Read the full definition of Multi-Entry. So I would just probably cap it with some of these guys. The value on the slate is not going to be overly excited.

That's why you're going to see, I think, a lot of ownershipOwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership go to guys that we'll talk about next, like Savion Williams. Looks like a very solid play. I think his ownership is going to come up because he's getting a lot of work. He's in a good offense here.

Um so you have to get if you're building a lot of teams you're just gonna have to include like the lloyds and the etns of the world and just hope they do something or it's a slate where um you just need a cheap guy to make everything else work and even if they get like three fantasy points it all works out so not exciting stuff here but they're probably a necessary evil on the slate Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out here too, title.

Like the Pierce Strong, Marshall. I guess like the only thing I'm looking at is because the values to Hoop's point, it's Williams for sure. And then it's probably, you know, Tommy Tremble, John Metchie. That's it. Like there, you know what I mean? After that, I mean, you got to go up. I'm not counting these $5,000 kickers and stuff like that because they're going to be popular too.

Like you'll see even a $4,800 Fitzgerald and a $5,000 smack tonight. We'll get some love just because they're, you know, it's Savion Williams or them.

And then after that, I don't know how much you'll people love Tommy Tremble, you know, um, who else did I say up there pierre strong and guys like that so is there anything outside of Hubbard and Jacobs you can add commentary on them but outside of those guys what else are you thinking here if anything yeah MarShawn Lloyd's one of my favorite flex playsFlex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL for sure uh short week two with Jacobs coming back he played thirty five percent of snaps last week eighteen rushing prop coin flip uh over and on the under Not like Josh Jacobs was that efficient, especially early in the game.

Later in the game, he did. But, yeah, I mean, nowadays, these running backs, unless you're Jameer Gibbs and stuff, you still rotate some as favorites at home. He might get some goal line work, like Jordan said as well. So I would definitely keep Marshall in the pool. I think his ownership's too low. And then what if Marshall Lloyd does get a touchdown or something like that? Roster constructionRoster ConstructionRoster construction is how you organize a DFS lineup within its salary cap and roster rules. It includes where you spend or save, which positions you prioritize, and how your players fit together.Build two versions around your biggest spending decision, then compare every player who changes. Revisit the comparison when injury news changes the available value.Read the full definition of Roster Construction-wise, game theory, all of that, you can play Josh Jacobs and Marshall Lloyd together.

Then you tell yourself Packers to get up early. They stay up. And then I like Tett and Coker and Bryce Young more because you think they have to chuck it, and I don't like Chubb as much. So, yeah, and when we're struggling to get value and looking at low-ownedLeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Read the full definition of Leverage plays, Marshall Lloyd is one of my favorites today. I really like that call, actually. And then the reason I like it so much is because you're talking me through it.

And then I go to the stone, get some ideas and look at it. And that is pretty great because what you think about there is like, OK, what I talked about earlier with Jacobs. Well, what are we seeing? Jacobs looks good at the captain or at least equal to. And if you give him a little bit of love for like a bigger Jacobs game, then obviously that's taking away from captain optimal of love and other guys.

So you kind of like would bump him in your head and say, that's what it would be. And I like them up top, but we actually have negative flex leverage on Jacobs and we have positive flex leverage on Lloyd, which obviously correlates, but sometimes it's nice to see it with the data and the simulations to actually back it. And say, okay, this puts me in this spot to make me think about this. And then what does that do for the rest of your roster?

Even for those out there that are hand-building or using the Stone 2.0.O at ShipItNation.com to do it themselves that way, this is a spot where I can see doing that. And also... He's less than Savion. I know the whole chat's saving it. First of all, shout out to our guy, Avery, always here supporting. He's obviously watched the show for long enough to know the one-liners. He said it helps you Savion some salary. Savion some salary.

I like that one quite a bit, actually, Avery. That's a good one. Very witty. But it's like everybody knows that. He's at twenty already, and that's going to go up. So sad. It was just a couple weeks ago when he was like five percent owned, and now everyone loves my boy Savion. Sad times. You know what, though? Sturdivant has won people some money in Showdown this season.

I know that one of the big-time unique shippers up top or were really low-duped was with Sturdivant. Obviously, there was injuries and stuff then, but I'm just noting it. Sabian's not a secret tonight on this slate. So I really like that Lloyd call. It flips it. The data... Um, runs out with it and solid. And then it's a little bit cheaper. Any Williams lineup could be Lloyd. Obviously you want to think about what lineup you're doing that too.

Cause if it's already got Jacobs or Jacobs, a captain, I guess you could have a Jacobs captain with, um, you know, Lloyd in the flex. We've seen the Bijan Bijan, Brian Robinson Jr. games that we've seen and all that stuff this season. So you never know, but, uh, yeah. In on that. Love that call quite a bit. Let's go to wide receiver. We talked about McMillan. We talked about Watson. Obviously, you're extremely high on Watson.

I think all of us are for good reason. But you've got Coker. You've got Golden. We talked about Williams. Mechie, by the way, on the other side. He's a guy that wasn't... Wasn't he the guy just stealing it from...

Coker last week or from uh every time we were hoping that somebody else would actually get a catch it's like maybe they're trying to throw to mechi so I don't know what his final stats finished with it wasn't anything crazy I don't think but just to note it uh nobody talking about him and he's the value on the opposite side hoop so what do you got at wide receiver man that Panthers offense was was buns man there's no other way to put it that was that was bad that was bad uh yeah I mean it's actually honestly probably pretty boring uh conversation here to talk about these wide receivers because the guys are just the guys I mean the Packers guys are it's

Clear it's Watson it's Golden it's Savion Williams I love all three the concern you guys already pointed out is you know Savion Williams is the obvious valueValueValue is the fantasy production you expect from a player relative to his salary. A value play offers more production or upside than his price suggests, whether he is cheap or expensive.Identify why the salary looks wrong: workload, matchup, scoring ability or a pricing error. Then check whether that reason still holds when you submit your lineup.Read the full definition of Value play on the slateSlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate and there's only one way the ownership's going and that is up hopefully it stays in check because I do really like him as a play I mean he's involved in their offense they're uh making their there's plays to get him the ball like he's the the third wide receiver and you can see there's plays where it's his number is the number one option And he's had a couple rush attempts, and I think that continues on.

So I think he's a really good play. The concern, though, is obviously the ownershipOwnershipOwnership is the percentage of lineups in a contest that include a given player. Projected ownership is an estimate made before lock; actual ownership is posted once the contest locks.Ownership isn't something to avoid; it's something to build around. The goal is understanding how the field is likely to build, then finding your edge relative to that.Read the full definition of Ownership going up. If it doesn't, to me, if it stays at twenty percent, it's probably too low for Savion Williams. I hope it stays there. On the Panthers side, Tett, Coker, great plays. And then, you know, you keep Metchie in there as well. And I will say, Bo Melton is always involved in the Packers offense. Like, he's always out there.

So I don't mind him and Jordan Love captain teams. It would be probably specific to that. Like, if Jordan Love captain teams, Bo Melton, a little bit of exposure I think is fine.

You know, it's like whenever you have a Packers stack and you see them throw the ball on the main slate, throw the ball to Melton, you're pissed because obviously you can't play Melton on the main slate at all but it just seems like he's always and he's been around it seems like forever and they just keep getting him involved so I don't mind keeping him in the player poolPlayer PoolA player pool is the set of players you consider using in your DFS lineups for a slate, the games or events included in a contest. The term can also mean everyone available to select in that contest.Keep a replacement beside each uncertain player, noting the salary and position you need. Recheck those alternatives when news changes so your shortlist still produces usable lineups.Read the full definition of Player Pool at a thousand dollars but there's nothing crazy here I mean the plays are just the plays this is crazy I don't know if this is I mean I think it's really accurate I'm looking at you know some stuff here titled but beau Melton has one game above five DraftKings points this

Year eleven Yeah, I mean, his snaps have gone down ever since week six when Savion played fifty three percent. Melton only played twenty four the week prior. He played forty nine, only thirteen snaps last week, nineteen percent. But to Hoop's point, I mean, he had five points, but he almost had five points in one catch last week. Jordan Love threw him like a forty five yard streak route and he dropped it. I don't know. Defender made an OK play, but.

No, a streak was one of his undies because it was a horrible, horrible mess. I would have liked it a hell of a lot more if this was the case, right? If you get no Golden, then, you know, it's great. But, you know, the interesting thing is Golden is playing and Sabian is still getting, you know, again, like Hoops said, is that twenty-ish right now? I don't know what you think, Title. If it goes up higher than that, it does feel like it will.

But what else do you have here? Anything else or anything? I guess Metchie got as many targets as Coker did last week. But another thing that's crazy, I did this with Parker Washington the next week. He came out and crushed. I get it. But I liked Coker here. And then I don't care about this old stuff anyway. I'm just noting it. We just give everybody the reign, put the crown on them. It's like... Okay. Week one, he got thirty six points.

Every other week has been less than fifteen. Last year, he had one game over sixteen points and it was a thirty one point outbreak. Otherwise, he's not coming out and just crushing slates like it's like everyone. Oh, the coke heads and all this stuff. And they get all fired up like he's. That's me. Yeah. Yeah. You're talking about right there. You're talking to the coke. I'll give you a little. I'll give him a little bullshit. Week three gets hurt. Week four, he doesn't play.

Week five is on a bye. Week six. Not great. In the week seven, they get the doors blown off them right away, so it's hard to even look at anything in that game. Trevor Etienne playing a bunch of snaps and all of that, so it hasn't been the best for him. But, yeah, injury, then didn't play the next game, then bye week, get the doors blown off. Tell me he's Tony Pollard, two-point-oh, and I'm in. I'm not going to go that far.

I've got to save that for when I actually really feel it. That was good. All right, okay. He's also getting ownership, like five percent versus thirty four or whatever. Yeah, I always anyone that follows me knows I always love Jalen Coker. The nice thing, too, is anyone shocked if he's the highest score on the slate today? I'm not. And he's $7,800. Ten ninety four. $9,000. Chuba. Ninety six. $10,000. You can put him at captain and put Jordan Love at captain.

Make a team. Put Coker there. Obviously, make sure the team makes sense. It's just a lot more easy to leave money with them. One other thing I wanted to point out that goes to what you were kind of saying there, though, it's very rare in the NFL for these offenses to just go completely dust, like back-to-back weeks. When they have a bad week, they typically bounce back the next week and look productive. It's very rare for them to play that bad two weeks in a row.

The next week just goes up. You said, I'm with you. I loved Bryce Young, Tet, Coker last week with the run backBring-BackIn the NFL, a bring-back is usually a wide receiver, tight end or running back from the team facing your quarterback stack.Pick the bring-back who gains the most when his team falls behind. In football that's usually the opponent's top pass catcher, not a running back who loses carries in a comeback.Read the full definition of Bring-Back. That was my favorite. Like the spot. And I think you said it earlier to title, but if McMillan steaming, I will say this and I'll let you keep rolling is I, I prefer Coker up top. Let's do it. Let's have the Parker Washington bounce back or let's not do it as much. You know what I mean?

Cause I want to kind of get it or not. Obviously he can just catch balls and be a flex playFlex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL and it's, it's fine. You can do that. I'm just saying he's getting a lot more ownership there. I don't think he's going to get much up at the top and he gives you a unique roster and kind of leverages everything that's going on around him. Like Ted, Bryce, the other side where people are on Watson or on Jordan Love, et cetera, et cetera.

So, yeah, I've got interest, but more up top. Keep going. You had some good Coker one-liners last year, right? Have we gotten those this year? Those are Mayo's, man. It's Jalen sniffing the Coker.

And all these other different things like there's there's always stuff somebody said in here too but yeah you know titles guys are always these guys uh you know Michael Wilson Parker Washington Jalen Coker he's got a pretty good track record on them having some of these big games so maybe it's a sign for tonight we want some more coconut coconut life coker yeah I try and be early on guys that I believe.

It hasn't been the best from this year, but, I mean, week one is all you needed. Some people could play them every week and won all the money week one. I wish – this is just a slate. Like, who nailed it?

If you play – if you play – if you play – if you play – if you play – if you play – if you play – if you play – Like ownership seems pretty efficient, but the good thing is, is it's spread out so much that you can be around the field with all of them and people just make so many bad lineups. I think it's a slate, to be honest, that you're doing it wrong.

If you're just way overboard on three captains and then you're fading like the four other ten percent owned ones. Yeah. Unless you just really think you know how the game's going to go. And even the game goes how you think it's going to go. There's enough options where maybe it's just the wrong guys you're choosing. So my favorite is definitely Christian Watson, though, at the receiver position. Savion, yeah, he's probably going to get steam. I'm going to play him. The snaps only increase.

He's very involved. I like Tet more than Coker today, though.

If choosing but yeah I'm like I have to play some mechi some bryson tremaine uh those are the guys that aren't getting any looks but I like mechi more than tremaine for sure I won't have too much tremaine but tremaine man this guy could get in the mix tonight what's his what's he been doing yeah no tremaine uh he's out there so I'm walking around the sidelines just chilling but he's out he's been out there we've seen him before he's actually got a Was it week four when Coker was out?

Week three. Week three. Oh, that was when Coker got hurt and then left. But, yeah, I mean, yeah, he's out there even when they're fully healthy. So let's just say that week six when everything was fine, he played twenty five snaps. So anyone that's going to be out there today, I have I have to have some interest. New ones. I'm stealing this for a tweet later tonight with cokers going up and it's going to be coke heads greater than cheese heads.

Let's go. And we get that out there. So thank you for the content. I appreciate you, man. But no, good one by you as well. I like that call. I like you said, it's mixing these guys around. It's nothing too crazy. But the most interesting thing to me is we know Williams is already at an ownership and going to steam and he's at it for good reason. And we get why that's all baked in. That's why it's there.

But now I feel a little bit better about, you know, matchy. Coker up top, Metchie in the flex, Tremayne in the flex, you know, getting Marshall Lloyd from the previous position into the flex and different ways that I can work around Savion Williams and then just watch him dust me later on. But if he's going to really be twenty plus, I think I'll be underweight. I have to wait and see my final run looks like.

But I'm just imagining it that way because so many different ways that you can build and some good call outs by you guys here. Just thinking it in different ways for how we're building. So anything else you want to add at wide receiver here? No, I think we're good. All right, take us into the other pass catchers. Tucker Kraft certainly looks solid, you know, up top in the flex. I know people are using him multiple ways tonight. He's $11,100 up top.

We talked about captains already, but at $7,400 in the flexFlex and UTILA standard NFL FLEX accepts a running back, wide receiver or tight end. In DraftKings NFL Showdown, FLEX instead means a regular-scoring slot alongside Captain, with broader eligibility that includes quarterbacks.Before lock, identify affordable replacements for your latest starter. An open FLEX or UTIL slot helps only if suitable unlocked players remain within your budget.Read the full definition of Flex and UTIL, he's four hundred less than Coker and he's a thousand less than Golden. You know, fourteen hundred less than Watson. How are you handling Tucker Kraft and the rest of the tight end options on the slateSlateA slate in DFS is the set of games, races, fights or tournament rounds covered by a contest. It determines which events your player selections can come from and which performances count toward your score.Before building, open the contest details and check the included events, scoring period and lock rules. Do not assume two sites offer identical slates just because both call them the main slate.Read the full definition of Slate? Yeah, I mean, like Tucker Kraft a lot. Good with him up top. You know, I think he's a strong option. Ownership. Whatever. I mean, it is what it is. I think he's fine.

The Panthers use a lot of different tight ends. Waller, Trumbull, Evans. I think they're all in play for Bryce Young captain teams. I think they're a good fit there. If you want to pair one of them with one of the wide receivers with McMillan or Coker, you can kind of do it that way. Johnny Smith, he was out there. I don't know if he did anything. Let me verify that. I know he had at least one target.

Love missed him on that wheel route that he would still be running. Yes, yes. Oh, he was standing there wide open with his hands, and he totally whipped behind him. Zoned into the right side of the field. Come on, dude. You get progressions. Yes, that was the play. So he's out there running routes, and he is cheap, . Good for Jordan Love captain teams, I think.

So a lot of these guys, like the Panthers guys and then Johnny Smith, good for their correlating quarterback captain teams and Tucker Kraft, good all formats. Yeah. What do you got to add here, Title? We talked earlier about Darden Waller a little bit. Tremble on the other side. Tremble's $2,600. So, you know, at least somewhat interesting there, I guess. He obviously, you know, he gets in the mix. We know that much about him.

But what are you thinking here at the tight end position? I think Waller is my favorite at ownership just because he's the highest leverageLeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Read the full definition of Leverage guy. When they get in the red zone, he can be one for five, but with the touchdown, and I'll take that on a slate like this. Other than that, yeah, I like Kraft. He's fine. Tremble's fine. I'll have some Janu, some Mitchell Evans. Those are just large field. You're playing a bunch of teams to be unique, but Waller at ownership is my favorite.

Man, Tremble don't mess around, dude. This guy got twenty one, five, seven, six. You go back to last season, you got six, thirteen, five, five, six, six, like eight, fifteen again. Like this guy's just stealing everything all the time. It's just touchdowns. He just robs him in the end zone. It's crazy. I like the initials double T. So maybe Tommy Tremble is the guy tonight. But I think what you said at ownership, Waller.

Waller the baller, we make fun of it or whatever, but there's also games where he's got multiple touchdowns and things like that. So if we're looking for opportunity, at least it's, I don't, I just don't, he's $2,000 less than craft. He's right there with the kickers. He's just above some of the other spots that people are playing on the slate. So I think there's, you know, a value to go there and just try and get a little bit unique that way.

He looks like he'll be, you know, ten to fifteen percent owned in the flex tonight. And it's about.

Equal and we've got some good uh flex leverage on him on the stone as well just looking at it from that perspective craft obviously everyone's on looks good but you know I think yeah Tremble waller craft mainly the guys that I'm interested in regardless of who's up top you can still use these guys just to catch passes so hoop I'll kick it to you the um kickers and d somebody said earlier I mean I guess title I'll go to you first I was gonna go to hoop but if you go to the game tonight and get this how's that feel It'd feel terrible.

Trey Smack has been dog shit. With all that being said, I think LeFleur is going to – I mean, because he made a really, really questionable, I'm going to say bad decision early in the game to go for like fourth and four. I think like his butt's going to pucker a little bit on some of these questionable in-between calls today. And especially because, yeah, Trey Smack's still on the team. Like – they have confidence that I don't know if they have confidence.

They just, they don't want to get rid of them yet, but I'm more worried that, that the floor and questionable decisions is going to take the conservative route, which is a benefit for trace Mac today. I'm going to play the defenses. They're low ownedLeverageLeverage is the edge you gain by rostering a play the field is underweight on, compared with how often it ends up in winning lineups. When that play outscores the popular option most lineups chose instead, you gain ground on those lineups, though the rest of your roster still decides where you finish.Look for leverage on players connected to the chalk, like the other side of a popular game or a teammate who can steal the popular player's touches.Read the full definition of Leverage. Um, Yeah. So I like defenses more than the field. I'm just trying to find ways to get different because there's so much like the value is tough. Like we keep talking about on the slate.

So we're showing eight percent Panthers, sixteen percent Packers, both lower owned than their own respective kickers. If it's Gerald's only going to be fifteen percent, though, I mean, I'll say I'm overweight him to any kicker at fifteen percent is fine. Looks like a nice night at Lambeau.

Um sixty degrees whatever no precipitation so yeah I think uh to be honest maybe overweight on all of these four yeah I mean that's another Savion thing too right they're all right there yeah you want them to outscore Savion exactly like you're right that's how you eliminate that's how you don't see a $3,000 winner today is if these out they outscore Savion Yeah, we need to handle that one for sure. So I don't know. Like somebody said, it's possible.

I looked it up. The special teams coach commented on it. He didn't really hold back. So it doesn't sound like they're very happy. And obviously, for good reason, you have one job. It's go out there and make these kicks. But still sounds like they've got confidence in them to put them back out there tonight. Like you said, where are you sitting tonight at the game? Right behind Packers bench, like four rows back. I got good seats. You'll be checking in on LeFleur.

I was heard from the seats that I could talk to the players and talk to LeFleur, but I don't want to get kicked out. That would be bad news. That'd be bad news. I'd be losing whoever gave me the seats. Cause yeah, Packers are strict. Now, if you get kicked out, you pretty much lose your season tickets. So yeah, that would not be, that can't happen.

Can't be doing that doesn't seem like a very title town thing no no bring out anyone in the Ship It Nation crew I'm like yeah title over here that ain't happening hey marley you know you have a few big marley would be the favorite for sure Yeah, those are my boys, though. I love that shit. It's all good. We were just down in Vegas with them having a good time.

So somebody mentioned we were down there for the big guy event and RIP the big guy in the sky. But Oracle says the big guy would never be scared to play Tremble on Halloween. All right. Saying that now. So I like that, man. Great call out there. Appreciate it. All right. Hoop, anything you wanted to add on Ryan Fitzgerald, Trey Smack, the Packers or the Panthers? He likes the kickers. He doesn't like the defenses.

I don't have much interest in the defenses here. I will say the one thing for the defenses, they haven't been popping up as much this year. They're probably due to do something big on the showdownShowdown (Captain and MVP)NFL Showdown lets you select players from one football game, including eligible quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, tight ends, kickers and team defenses. Your Captain or MVP receives the contest's scoring multiplier.Compare complete lineups with different players in the multiplier slot. Leaving salary unused can reduce duplication, but do not sacrifice meaningful scoring potential just to make your lineup unusual.Read the full definition of Showdown. That's the one case I think for them. But in terms of the kickers, I like Fitzgerald over the Packers guy. I mean, Fitzgerald is – let's see. He hasn't missed a field goal yet this year. That's important.

And the other guy, Trey, I mean, one more missed kick and they're going to smack his ass out of town. So, I mean, we – Let's go. All right. It was the worst, but it made sense. So I like it. It's just, it's not as natural for Hoopster. So it's like, gotta be premeditated and the delivery is always going to be a little rough, but you know, when I can get it all the way out, that's all that matters. So one more miss.

Trey is going to be uh yeah the box square is looking good for Fitzgerald I mean he hasn't missed a field goal yet this year eight ten $15,900 ten obviously last week was a disaster not his fault they got their ass absolutely kicked and then You know, the Packers guy, Trey, has one more miss before they smack his ass out of town. So a little less of him. I prefer Fitzpatrick. I mean, that's in your head, though, as a kicker.

It's like you're going to get a little nervous knowing if I miss one more four-yarder, I'm done. Like, he's definitely done. So I prefer Fitzpatrick over Mr. Smack. Are you on these Ds much or what? No, no, never on the D. Panthers could be under ten percent. Stay away from the D. Yeah, I get it. They're cheap and you might need some value, but less D. He's never on it. You don't even got to ask him.

I will say, though, the case is they're due to – when's the last time you needed a defense? I mean, it's been a while. I don't know. The last time you said when's the last time you need someone, it was when's the last time you needed Tony Pollard. Yep. I did back you up in the chat. We have the new shows made now, and I grabbed the clip where you could just screenshot it. I said he actually asked the question.

He didn't say you're not going to – I was just proposing a question. I was looking for the answer. I didn't answer the question. I was asking the question. When's the last time? Right? Yeah, that's right. The chatter and hoops say, no, we ain't never riding the Ds. And they couldn't get away with anything. Emoji Central in there now. So you can't talk about football these days without anything going the wrong way on here. But FanDuel, Hoop, let's talk about it here.

Quick look at it, just what you're seeing. Obviously, some big boosts. Right away to the quarterbacks. You know, Bryce Young goes up from, you know, $14,400 captain on DraftKings to seven, almost $18,000 on FanDuel in the MVP. You see a big boost on Hubbard. Like, obviously, you have ten more to work with, but Jacobs is cheaper on FanDuel than he is on DraftKings. Yeah, that's definitely the one thing that stands out.

Jacob's at $8,600 where running backs, the scoring system fits running backs better. $8,600 for him. That means, you know, the ownership will probably follow. But that's fine. That's a good price tag. You know, Matthews Golden has a somewhat uncomfortable price tag at $10,000. I mean, it's kind of not sticker shock, but as soon as you get to the five digits, you know, it looks it looks big.

But that makes me like him a little bit more over there, to be honest with you, because he's right. You know, he's priced above Tapp McMillan. He's right there with Christian Watson. He's up there. So I still like him there. Tucker Kraft at seventy two. Fair price tag. Checking out the value. It's say down. $3,400. So $3,400 is going to be. Very, very popular.

He's going to be popular on DK, but he's going to be even more popular on FanDuel, $3,400 super cheap for him. Yeah. What I mean, we're going to put the cores up after title and you do the the cash version of this. But is it just like love, love up top, Jacobs? I just put it up. Yeah, I mean, it could be. It's pretty much you're pretty much playing a two beat two.

I don't want to give it give it away for our premium members. And yeah, I think Lou's right. Seattle against the Chiefs on Sunday night. Defense-wise on the winner. Mahomes scored three points. I thought that shout out to Lou, by the way, that's our full time social media manager. So we appreciate Lou and all he does over for the nation. But I thought he was saying about a hoop saying last Sunday about saying when the last time maybe he was saying both.

I think he might, he said, might've said both, but I think he's on both. He knew he got both sides covered. So, all right. Interesting on that. The one thing that stood out to me though, when you said it, like how did you, you already kind of said it, but how does anyone play Matthews Golden when Watson is two hundred bucks more? Like, it's two hundred bucks. But if Golden can easily, if he could catch the ball. Yeah, he just got to catch it.

Maybe Nades will get down to the stadium early and give him a pep talk. Like, let him know I'm your number one fan, man. I was pumping you last year when you sucked ass and did nothing. Like, now you're doing something, just catch the ball for us. Like, that's what we need. We need a Nades, Matthews Golden pep talk. Get him back on track. He was pumping him last year when he was sucking ass? Yeah.

The best part is like nades knows I absolutely love him like I love nades like a brother I did that today actually nades I actually did cut my lawn today it's funny you say that's why that's why me and nades flow so well like he knew like there's a chance is it the final one No, because the leaves have been dropping like crazy. So I've just been kind of mowing and I got a new lawnmower.

I don't know if I told you guys, I got a new lawnmower at the beginning of this season and the bag's bigger. So it handles more leaves. So I have the big billy goat thing that really is the lawn vacuum. But now the lawnmower is doing a sufficient job with the leaves. So I haven't had to get the big billy goat out yet. Nice. I like it. I was just thinking about the song. It's like, it's the final count. Hoop got the, it's the final cut down.

He's got his headphones on, just jamming with his big mower going through and having the time out there, man. You got to love it. But the chat knows the inside jokes, so we appreciate it. My guy knows what's up. I used to do it on Wednesdays, so I'm a day behind now. I've shifted to Thursdays. Day late and a dollar short. Title, you're going to the game. I know we got to get out of here.

Any final thoughts from you, my friend, before you head out? No, I think it's a great game in the sense of a lot of, I mean, no one's projecting over a sixteen percent at captain. Anytime you get that should be a good one. Only three and a half point favorites. And yeah, any game that I'm in attendance to, I only can go to either Thursday night, Monday night, and then maybe Sunday night. Usually not even that. So I've been blessed. The Cardinals are so bad.

They have no primetime games. I was lucky enough to be in town for this. So I'm pumped. It's been since twenty twenty since I've been to Lambeau. So title heading title town headed to title town the day after the Brewers win the world. Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be good. Pretty good. You know, they say good things come in threes, though. So, hey, maybe this slate's yours. Shipper World Series and the game. Let's do it. I mean, I'm in the streets.

Whoop. Final thoughts from you, my friend, before we get out of here. Yeah, Bills, just Google it real quick. This thing's an absolute beast. I'll get a video out there when I bust it out there. But I mean, it literally sticks, leaves, wood chips, whatever you need. This thing sucks up and chops it so fine. It's a phenomenal product. Google it. I'll get some videos up when I bust it out this year. In terms of this game, though, it's a great one.

Like you talked about, tons of different ways to go. Great for fantasy. Things should be spread out up top. A lot of viable options, a lot of ways this can go. Good luck to everyone. Let's start week eight. Look at that thing, man. It is phenomenal. He doesn't have the bag on there, so I got the bag on this thing. It is so powerful. It literally sucks up anything on your lawn.

It'll get the bigger sticks too, like the sticks that might be more girthy, like the girthier sticks. It'll suck that out too. And it has a side component where if it's too big to get chopped up, you can put it in the side thing and it chops it up. So the bigger sticks go on the side. It's Buddy's talking about big, girthy sticks and sucking them. Big, girthy. Like, oh, man, we got to get the hell out of here. Yeah. Oh, God.

All right. We appreciate you guys. Make sure to hit that thumbs up. Subscribe to the channel. Title, I think we'll be back tomorrow with the cash gameCash GameA cash game is a contest that pays a large share of the field, usually close to half, the same flat prize. Fifty-fifties, double-ups and head-to-heads are the common cash games.Treat cash games as the steady base of your bankroll. Use one safe core across your cash entries on a slate, and save riskier ideas for tournaments.Read the full definition of Cash Game countdown. We've got all the other stuff coming up for you guys this weekend. Saturday, myself and Blickle for Leverage Lane. And then Sunday, this crew will be right back here at nine a.m. Eastern for the main slate. Check us out.

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Just so generous giving back thousand dollars to the community that you'll be, that the community will be playing for this week. So congrats again to Nika. Thank you guys so much for watching for hoop for title for myself, ToeTagginTambo. Good luck in your contest this week. Ship it.